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    Default 1906 American Eagle 9MM

    This is the second of four lugers I have been offered in trade. It is as titled - serial number 38097 - has a 9mm marked magazine - it is valued at $4500.

    Is this a fair valuation? All four lugers are from the Mike Forte collection - who was a restorer on the East Coast. I have no idea if it was restored but it looks pretty new to me.

    http://s1015.photobucket.com/albums/...view=slideshow

    Sorry about the poor camera work, but I sux.
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    Looks very nice. If restored, no its not worth it.

    if original, its in the ball park. However, if you can't tell the difference if original or restored; then I would be hesitant to make a 15-20k deal...


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    I looked at your albums. Without having guns in hand, my impression is that all four are restored, but I could be totally wrong. Mike was a master restorer. It is sad that he was struck down at a relatively early age. He really knew Lugers.
    If it is made after 1918...it is a reproduction.

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    Mike Forte was a master craftsman and said to be a restorer for some of the biggest Luger retailers in the land. Keep that in mind and turn it over in your head as you drift into sleep tonight.
    " 'To everything there is a season...a time for war and a time for peace'. and this is the time for war". Reverend Peter Muhlenberg, January 21, 1776, Woodstock, Virginia

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    Can someone give me a valuation on these pistols (as restored) so that I can make a counteroffer?

    I don't want to insult the dealer. He did tell me where the pistols came from and that the guy was a restorer.

    Thank you.

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    I looked at Mike's work several times at Louisville and the metal work was excellent but the Blue always seemed off color to me. I can't say about the guns you're asking about because the photos are not good enough.
    I'd be surprised if they are not refinished. All of his guns that I looked at always looked the same. If he had an original that was not refinished it always stood out to me because of the color.
    As far as value, that's a personal decision for you. I don't have any idea but probably 50% of what the dealer is asking.
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    Just looked at the other guns you posted. I believe halos are normal on the bug proofs and would show refinishing. I see Ed said half also.
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    A friend of mine has an '06 9mm American Eagle for sale. It's an excellent original finish gun but has a mismatched commercial side plate. He is asking $3000.

    My experiance has been that when a pistol has been "professionally" restored be very careful. Refinishing can hide or change many other faults such as renumbered non original parts.
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    After some careful practice of the art of omphaloskepsis, I must correct my previous posting regarding the color of Mike Forte's refinishing. I confused Mike's work with another refinisher and withdraw my comment regarding the color of his work being off.
    Tom
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    "Omphaloskepsis"...now there is a word that rarely comes up in casual conversation! (I have an "innie" by the way...TMI, I know)
    If it is made after 1918...it is a reproduction.

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    Rogerbutthead,

    Save your money and be patient and buy factory-original Lugers in the best condition you can find.

    Refinished guns will always just be that...a refinished gun...and your selling-audience in the future will be a limited smaller group of collectors.

    Your seller/dealer at least is being honest about what he is offering...but maybe his prices are just not "right"...as the guns are still re-finished pieces.


    Best Regards, Pete...

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