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    SAUER 1913, SERIAL NUMBER 77014, IMPERIAL MILITARY ACCEPTED

    Sauer started production of the Model 1913 in 1913. Some of those produced during World War I bear a C/ script letter Army acceptance stamp on the right side of the frame behind the C/N commercial proof. These are interspersed with commercial Sauer 1913's. Some of the later War production bear a “Prussian Eagle” (really an Erfurt style German test proof eagle) on the front of the trigger guard. Thirty six with the C/ script letter Army acceptance stamp are reported in the 22939 to 85467 serial range. Of these, 8 bear the Prussian Eagle on the front of the trigger guard. (Note: almost all of those reported in the 75259 to 85467 serial range are Imperial accepted.) Wartime Production is estimated is estimated at 70,000 and it is estimated that less than 30,000 were Imperial accepted. It is one of the most compact and finest of the wartime auxiliary pocket pistols. In August 1917 the Prussian Army Arsenal offered the Sauer 1913 for sale to officers (Volume I, page 127).

    Listing of Imperial Army Accepted 1913 Sauers. TGE=trigger guard eagle. Source “Volume I”; Still lists; and “J.P. SAUER and SOHN”, Volume II, by Cate and Krause. (Martin Krause (sauerfan) helped write this book and it is highly recommended).
    22939 Imperial Army Accepted
    33561 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    46793 Imperial Army Accepted, 107.R.5.24.???
    49778 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    50837 Imperial Army Accepted
    51487 Imperial Army Accepted
    53863 Imperial Army Accepted
    54154 Imperial Army Accepted, Res.J.R.71.M.G.
    54680 Imperial Army Accepted
    55097 Imperial Army Accepted
    56198 Imperial Army Accepted
    59553 Imperial Army Accepted
    60746 Imperial Army Accepted
    62355 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    62405 Imperial Army Accepted
    64209 Imperial Army Accepted
    68123 Imperial Army Accepted, 107.R.5.34.
    68807 Imperial Army Accepted
    71427 Imperial Army Accepted
    71535 Imperial Army Accepted
    71537 Imperial Army Accepted
    72032 Imperial Army Accepted
    75259 Imperial Army Accepted
    75633 Imperial Army Accepted
    76297 Imperial Army Accepted
    76927 Imperial Army Accepted
    77014* Imperial Army Accepted
    77064 Imperial Army Accepted
    77113 Imperial Army Accepted
    77146 Imperial Army Accepted
    78842 Imperial Army Accepted (updated 02-25-05)
    78872 Imperial Army Accepted
    81085 Imperial Army Accepted
    82291 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    82332 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    84120 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    84344 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    84505 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE
    85277 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE, 1920 stamp
    85467* Imperial Army Accepted, TGE, 1920 stamp
    92907 Imperial Army Accepted, TGE (updated 02-25-05)



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    Figure 1. Left side, Sauer 1913, serial number 77014. The slide is marked PATENT and the frame is marked with the serial number 77014. The grips are S and S marked. (Note: the back of the slide, not photographed, is C/N stamped.)


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    Figure 2. Top, Sauer 1913, serial number 77014. It reads J. P. SAUER AND SOHN, SUHL. The Sauer little guy with a club is stamped in relief.


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    Figure 3. Back end, Sauer 1913, serial number 77014, showing the C/N proof on the back of the slide..


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    Figure 4. Right side, Sauer 1913, serial number 77014. The grips are S and S marked.


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    Figure 5. Sauer 1913, serial number 77014. Right side details. The slide is marked CAL. 7,65.


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    Figure 6. Sauer 1913, serial number 77014. Right side showing the German Army Crown over “Q” acceptance stamp and the C/N commercial proof.


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    Figure 7. Sauer 1913, serial number 77014 with its holster. Note: World War I auxiliary holsters were most often not marked to specific pistols. This holster fits the short Sauer 1913 barrel and it’s magazine exactly.


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    Figure 8. Details of the open holster.


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    Figure 9. Back of holster.


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    Figure 10. The holster is stamped B.A.XI. on the inside of the flap.


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    Figure 11. The holster is stamped L.Z.A. / eagle / J. Berlin.d. According to research by Krause and Cate, L.Z.A. / eagle / J.Berlin.d. signifies: Leder-Zuweisungs-Amt Inspection Berlin which translates to: Leather Allocation Office, Berlin. The job of the of the LZA was to control leather goods production. “This consisted of supplying leather to private leather goods manufacturers for belts, boots, holsters, etc. for the purpose of producing these different items for army and navy usage” (AUTO MAG, XXXII-Issue 5, August 1999, page 114-116).

    SAUER 1913, SERIAL NUMBER 85467, IMPERIAL MILITARY ACCEPTED, BEARING: PRUSSIAN EAGLE ON FRONT TRIGGER GUARD


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    Figure 12. Left side, Sauer 1913, serial number 85467. This Sauer 1913 is identical to serial number 77014, except it bears a Prussian Eagle on its front trigger guard.


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    Figure 13. Right side, Sauer 1913, serial number 85467.


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    Figure 14. Front, Sauer 1913, serial number 85467, showing the “Prussian Eagle” on the front of the trigger guard.


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    Figure 15. Front, Sauer 1913, serial number 85467, showing details of the Prussian Eagle. It appears identical to the style of eagle used to proof Erfurt Lugers and some barrels and breech blocks of DWM Lugers.

    According to orders dated 23 July 1918, auxiliary Army pistols in use by troops are to have an Imperial Eagle (called Prussian Eagle by collectors) added by military armorers to the front of the trigger guard (Gortz, German Small Arms Markings, page 129). There is some indication that some of these Prussian Eagles were applied at the factory. See link below, TRIGGER GUARD EAGLE, after Figure 8.: MAUSER 1914, SN 168278, PRUSSIAN EAGLE Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3900


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    Figure 16. The Sauer 1913 is about ½ inch shorter than most other Imperial German auxiliary pistols. Its holster has a stubby appearance. Above are holsters (for auxiliary 7,65 pistols) worn by Imperial German soldiers.
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    Jan,

    excellent presentation!!!!! And your Imperial accepted Sauer 13s are beautiful. My own Imperial accepted Sauer 13 SN 78,872 (Crown over Q; no Prussian eagle) also came in a 1918 made holster with LZA / J. Bielefeld holster . It is my observation, that holsters having any kind of the LZA or L.Z.St. marking were made only in 1918 and I assume that the relating pistols also are 1917/1918 made pistols. Should this be correct, the SN range of approximately 75,xxx to 85,xxx was made in 1918.

    What seems to be quiet unusual is the letter "d." after "J. Berlin." . I haven't seen this before and I have no explanation for the letter "d.".

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    Martin
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    Martin
    Thanks for you kind words. The 1913 Sauers maintained their quality up to the end of the war.

    There is a lot of confusion regarding the LZA/eagle holster stamp on the internet and in publications. Your article in AUTO MAG and caption in your book on page 62 set the record straight by providing correct information.
    Thanks
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    Nice Sauer Jan, I think these have a great look to them, I assume the grip angle feels nice too.

    Ed

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    I don't know if anyone is keeping track of numbers on TGE Saurs but, I have #92907

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    Greg
    Thanks for the Sauer 1913 with TGE sn 92907. Its by far the highest serial number. Table above updated.
    Thanks
    Jan
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    You are welcome. Pleased I could contribute something.

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    Greg,

    could you please also post photos of your Imperial accepted Sauer 13 SN 92,907 ? Would be fine, as yours is really the very latest known.

    Martin
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    Jan,

    a German collector just informed me of his Imperial accepted Sauer 13:

    SN 25826, regimental marking "78.R.R.10.5" . The gun has NO aditional scryptic Q und crown, and no TGE, of course.

    Martin
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    Jan,
    A beautiful rig. I like these little pistols. And would love to run across a nice unit marked example sometime.

    Ron

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