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    Default 1940/1941 DATES MILITARY CODES 42 and byf DATA

    1940 42, 41 42, byf 41 and byf 42 CODE PRODUCTION ESTIMATE AND DATA REQUEST
    Reposted for data collection:

    Based on information gathered prior to 1988, three codes of Lugers occupy the contiguous- consecutive €œn€ and €œo€ serial range blocks of Lugers dated in 1940/1941. These are the (see page 16, Third Reich Lugers):
    1940 dated 42 code Approximately 23xx'y€-7000"n€
    41 dated 42 code Approximately 2500"n€ through the €œo€ block and scattered through the €œp€, €œq€ and €œr€ block.
    41 dated byf code. Approximately 3300"n€ through the end of the €œz€ block and through the ns and most of the a block.

    Then 41 42 code production was based on the portion of the three codes of Lugers in the €œn€ and €œo€ blocks and the sparse scattered production of 41 42 code lugers across the €œp€, €œq€ and €œr€ block.

    There were only 20,000 lugers produced in the €œn€ and €œo€ blocks. If the 41 42code Luger production is increased in the €œn€ and €œo€ blocks, the 1940 42 code and 41 byf code will have to be proportionally decreased. I suspect that the production estimate of 20,000 41 42 code Lugers, ignored the overlap in serial ranges and simply assigned all the €œn€ and €œo€ production to the 41 42 code.

    41 42 Serial Range and Production FINAL
    (Updated October 11, 2009)
    -----start 1940 42
    1939 42, sn 1236t, E63 E63 LTP - Russian Capture
    1940 42 sn, 23xxy, brown krieghoff style grips??
    1940 42 sn 5931z, E/655 KM N/3877
    1940-42 sn 5932z, E/655 E/655 LTP KM N/3880
    1940 42 sn 6764z, E/655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 8520z, 655, 655, LTP; E/655 and LTP on barrel
    1940 42 sn 8614z
    1940 42 #1501(ns) E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940-42 sn 1995ns, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 62xx
    1940-42 sn 6747ns, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn, 86xx,
    1940 42 sn, 88xx,
    1940 42 sn, 94xx ,black grips
    1940 42, sn 492a, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 2405a, KM N/4120
    1940 42 sn, 28xxa,
    1940 42 sn 2979a, E655/E655 LTP
    1940 42 sn, 31xxa,
    1940 42 sn, 3741a, KM 0.3845
    1940 42 sn.3749a (KM) N. 3991
    1940 42 sn 3734a, E/655 E/655 LTP, KM N4082, matching (+) mag with N4082 and 3734a + and 655 proof.
    1940 42 sn, 3801a, KM N/4040
    1940 42 sn, 39xxa,
    1940 42 sn 4112a, KM N/4019
    1940 42 sn 4074a, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 4104a, E/655, E/655, LTP
    1940 42 sn 4633a, KM N/4102
    1940/42 sn 409b 655 655 LTP,matched type two army mag 409 b + E/655
    1940 42 sn 518b, E655 E655, LTP,
    1940 42, sn 680b, E/655 E/655 LTP, KM N/4195 on backstrap.
    1940 42 sn 1156b, E/655 E/655 Navy marked (N 4197) on backstrap, no number on magazines
    1940 42 sn1567b, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42, sn1612b, E/655, E/655, LTP
    1940 42 sn 2705b, E/655, E/655, LTP
    1940 42 sn 27xxb,
    1940 42, sn 3421b, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 55xxb,
    1940-42 sn 5617b, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 67xxb,
    1940 42 sn 9280b, SE/655 SE/655 LTP; barrel 9280 & 8,82; grips 80 and E
    1940 42, sn 9748b, E/655 E/655 LTP, KM N4476
    1940 42 sn 110c, KM N/4463
    1940 42 sn 5xxc
    1940 42 sn 891c, KM N/4480
    1940 42 sn 952c, KM N/4425
    1940 42, sn 2811c, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42, sn 3792c, E/655 E/655 LTP, matching 122 code magazine, unnumbered E/655 grips.
    1940 42, sn 3792c,
    1940 42 sn 4037c, KM N/4313
    1940 42 sn.4027c, E/655 E655 LTP, no P08; un-marked wood grips; mag matching 4027c, E/37 122 body.
    1940 42, sn 4202c, (matching mag)
    1940 42 sn 4487c, E/655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 4870c, KM N/4298
    1940 42, sn 5784c, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 6209c, KM 0.3991
    1940 42 sn 6459c, E/655 E/655, LTP KM N/4329
    1940 42 sn 6822c, KM N/4398
    1940 42 sn 6831c, KM N/4294
    1940 42 sn 7192c, KM N/4284
    1940 42 sn 72xxc, 1940 42 sn 7211c, KM N/4293
    1940 42 sn 7379c KM N/4282
    1940 42 sn 7521c, E655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42, sn 8068c, E/655 E/655 LTP,
    1940 42, sn 8561c, E/655 E/655 LTP.
    1940 42 sn 9569c, E/655, E/655 LTP KM N4682 (Note: same N4682 reported on 6569e and 9569e)
    1940 42 sn 4xxd,
    1940 42 sn 524d, E/655 E/655LTP
    1940 42 sn 675d, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 45xxd, black grips
    1940 42 sn 4593d, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 6124d, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 7720d, KM N/4539
    1940 42 sn 7890d, E/655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 81xxd
    1940 42 sn 8346d, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 9267d, KM 0.3920
    1940 42 sn 9049d, KM N/4643
    1940 42 sn 9439d, SE655 SE655 LTP, rear frame bump, wood grips.
    1940 42 sn 9935d E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 9982d, KM 0.3996
    1940 42 sn 24xxe,
    1940 42 sn 28xxe
    1940 42 sn3626e, SE/655 SE/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 5651e, KM N/4338
    1940 42 sn 6569e, KM N/4682 (Note: same N4682 also reported on 9569c and 9569e)
    1940 42 sn 6783e, KM N/4789
    1940 42 sn7469e, E655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 8125e, E/655 E/655
    1940 42 sn 8384e, KM N/4718
    1940 42 sn 9250e, E/655 E/655 LTP, KM N4730
    1940 42 sn 9569e, KM N/4682 (Note: same N4682 reported on 9569c and 6569e)
    1940 42 sn 840f, KM N/4671
    1940 42 sn 1993f, KM N/4683
    1940 42, sn 2551f, E/655 E/655 LPT, matching wood grips
    -----
    41 byf sn 28xxf, (???)black plastic grips
    -----
    1940 42 sn 3606f, E655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 44xxf
    1940 42 sn 49xxf
    1940 42 sn 578f, KM N/4715
    1940 42, sn 6894f , Big E/655 little E/655 LTP. Barrel 8.81 and LTP, Mismatched wood grips. Matched 122 E/37 magazine.
    1940 42 sn 6304f, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 76xxf,
    1940 42 sn 8272f, E/655 E/655 LTP. Type 1 brown plastic grips
    1940 42 sn 413g, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 1494g, KM 0.4771
    1940 42 sn 2142g, KM N/4860
    1940 42 sn 3586g, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42, sn 4324g, brown plastic grips, one matching magazine.
    1940 42 sn, 48xxg,
    1940 42, sn 5906g (matching mag, brown Kreighoff grips)
    1940 42, sn 6808g, E655 E655 LTP, no suffix to barrel serial, gauge 8,82.
    1940 42 sn, 70xxg,
    1940 42 sn 30xxh
    1940 42 sn 3360h, E/655, E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 3489h, E/655 E/655, LTP, no PO8; black plastic grips
    1940 42, sn 3615h, E/655 E/655 LTP, black plastic grips
    1940 42 sn 39xxh,
    1940 42 sn 4570h E/655 E/655
    1940 42 sn 5372h brown plastic grips
    1940 42, sn 5946h, E/655 E/655 LTP, black plastic grips
    1940 42 sn 72xxh,
    1940 42, sn 9079h, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 99xxh, brown grips
    -----
    41 byf sn 7xxi ???
    -----
    1940 42 sn 81i, Brown plastic grips
    1940 42 sn, 26xxi,
    1940 42, sn 3179i, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn, 32xxi
    1940 42 sn 3941i, E/655, E/655, LTP, Match Mag
    1940 42, sn 4300i, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42, sn 5972i, E/655 E/655, plastic brown grips, matching mag, barrel 5972 883
    1940 42 sn 120k, Brown Krieghoff style grips
    1940 42 sn 248k, Frame Bump , 655 Waffenamt, Plastic grips, Aluminum Bottom, Steel Milled Mag, FXO #37 P.08, Cross pin in dimple.
    1940 42 sn 1220k, E655 E655 LTP,
    1940 42 sn 4720k, E/655 E/655, LTP
    1940 42 sn 50xxk
    1940 42, sn 6634k, E/655 E/655, LTP
    1940-42, sn 7557k, E/655 E/655 LTP 1
    1940 42 sn 8433k, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 9609k E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn, 4xxl
    1940 42 sn 20xxl,
    1940 42 sn 2078l, KM 0.3045
    1940 42 sn 5541l, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42, sn 5638l E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 6242l, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 71xxl
    1940 42 sn 2541m, E/655, E/655 LTP, black grips
    1940 42 sn 47xxm,
    1940 42, sn 5400m, E/655 E/655, black plastic grips, one matching magazine
    1940 42 sn 9433m E/655 E/655, black grips
    41 byf sn.1154n Black grips E665 (sn reported as a p)
    1940 42 sn 1389n, E/655 E/655 LTP, brown plastic grips.
    1940 42 sn14xxn, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn 1738n, E/655 E/655 LTD, walnut grips E/655, matching mag
    1940 42 sn 1854n E/655 E/655, LTP
    1940/42 sn 2046n, type 1 black grips, matching numbered mag, 655 proof.
    -----start 41 42
    41 42 sn 2716n, E/655 E/655 LTP No P.08 Frame
    41 42, sn 3607n, No P08 frame
    ----- approximate start of P08 on left frame, (found on almost all below?)
    41 42 sn 4134n, E655/E655 LTP, P.08 on frame
    41 42 sn 4163n, E/655, E/655, LTP
    -----
    1940 42 sn 4551n, E/655 E/655 LTP
    -----
    41 42, sn 4629n, E/655 E/655 LTP, PO8 on frame.
    ----------
    41 byf sn 52xxn,.
    -----
    41 42 sn 5684 n, E/655 E/655, LTP (P.O8 on frame)
    41 42 sn 5701n, E/655, E/655 LTP, P.08
    41 42, sn 5762n, E/655 E/655, LTP P.08 on left frame
    41 42, sn 5844n, E/655 E/655 LTP walnut grips w/E/655
    41 42 sn 59xxn
    41 42 sn 61xxn,
    41 42 sn 6093n, E/655 E/655 LTP, P.08
    -----
    1940 42 sn7072n, E655 E655, LTP; matching magazine 122 over E/37; matching grips
    -----
    41 byf sn 71xxn,
    41 byf sn 71xxn
    41 42, sn 7125n, E655 E655 LTP with P08 on left frame and (matching mag?)
    41 42 sn 7208n E/655 E/655 LTP, P.08
    41 42 sn 7225n Proofs removed P08 on frame
    41 42 sn 7524n, E/655, E/655 LTP, P08 on frame
    -----
    1940 42 sn 7769n, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn, 82xxn,
    1940 42 sn 82xxn
    -----
    41 42 sn 8243n, E/655 E/655 LTP; LTP on barrel, one matching mag, P08 on frame
    41 42 sn 8535n, E655 E655 LTP, P08 on frame
    41 42 sn 8539n, E/655, E/655, LTP
    41 42 sn 8856n, P08, SE655, SE655, unnumbered wood grips & British Nitro Proofs.
    41 42 sn 8984n E/655 E/655
    41 byf, sn 9322 n, E/655 E/655, P08 on Frame, proper fxo mag. but not matching, Black Grips.
    41 42 sn 9365n, E/655, E/655 LTP, P08 on frame
    -----
    41 42, sn 8o, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08
    41 byf sn 1xxo , E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 42, sn 517o, E/655, E/655, LTP, wood grips marked e/655
    -----
    41 41 sn 10xxo
    41 42 sn 11xxo,
    41 42 sn13xxo
    41 42, sn 1474o, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08
    41 42 1856o, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08
    41 42 sn1999o, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 42 sn 2406o.E/655 E/655 wood grips P 08 on frame
    41 42 sn 2977o, E/655, E/655 LTP
    41 42 sn 3118o E/655 E/655
    41 42 sn 3459o, E/655, E/655, LTP (P.08 left frame)
    41 42 sn 3562o, E/655, E/655 LTP, black grips
    41 42 sn 4030o E/655, E/655 LTP.
    -----end 41 42 start 41 byf
    41 byf sn 4636o, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 5023o, E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 Frame, MM
    41 byf sn 5136o E/655 E/655, P08, wood grips e/655, matching pistol, mismatched mag.
    41byf sn 53xxo, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 53xxo
    41 byf sn 5695o, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf 5997o E/655 E/655 P.08 wood grips 97 E/655, bring back from WW2
    41 byf sn 62xxo
    41 byf, sn 6307o, E/655, E/655 LTP, black (plastic?) grips, 2 all black mags (both fxo + e/37 & P08)
    41 byf sn 67xxo
    41 byf sn 77xxo
    41byf, sn 7873o, E/655 E/655 wood grips
    41 byf sn 8468o, E/655 E/655, P.08 on left frame, black grips, FXO mag
    41 byf sn, 8556o. E/655 E/655 LTP. Mag type 3 army (matching sn.) Wood grips E/WaA 655 .
    41 byf sn 9091o, E/655, E/655 LTP, sear safety police matching rig
    41 byf, sn 9422o, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08, black grips
    41 byf sn 11xxp,41 byf sn1587p, police sear safety
    41 byf sn 2013p, E/655 E/655 LTP, barrel gauge 8.8, P.08, matching spare + type 3 mag
    41 byf sn 2365p, police sear safety
    41 byf sn 3307p, police sear safety
    41 byf sn 3339p, E/655, E/655 LTP, P08 on frame
    41 byf sn 3413p, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 7170p, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 87xxp, police sear safety, black plastic grips
    41 byf sn 9154p, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf,sn 9235p, E/655 E/655 LTP, (P.08 left frame), walnut grips. Matching magazines: fxo E/37, 9235p and fxo Eagle37, 9235p +
    41 byf sn 50xxq,
    41 byf sn 65xxq, black grips
    41 byf sn 7q, E/655, E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 1481q, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 2884q, E/655 E655 wooden grips, matching spare mag (+).
    41 byf, sn 4335q E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 left frame
    41 byf, sn 4885q, E/655 E/655 LTP, P.08, no witness mark on the barrel
    41 byf, sn 5185q E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 left frame, vopo bullseye grips, matching mag
    41 byf sn 5987q, E/655 E/655 LTP; P08 on frame, walnut grips; 8,81 bore gauge.
    41 byf, sn 6982q, E/655, E/655 LTP, P.08, * on right barrel
    41 byf sn 72xxq, black grips
    41 byf sn7315q, E/655 E/655 LTP
    1940 42 sn, 75xxq
    41 byf sn 80xxq,
    41 byf sn 88xxq
    41 byf , sn 9092q, E/655 E655 LTP, wood grips, MM, PO8 frame.
    41 byf, sn 327r, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08
    41 byf sn 1112 r, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 3335r, E/655 E/655, P.08 frame, 8.81 bbl gauge, walnut grips, refinish
    41byf sn 38xxr, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 42, sn 4104r, E/655 E/655 LTP, 8,81 under barrel, Grips: left threaded hole low; right threaded hole high;
    41 byf sn 4273r, P08, SE655, SE655, black bakelite grips & two Type 4 Army mags.
    41 byf sn 4334r, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 4491 r, E/655 E/655 LTP, bore gauge 8.81
    41 byf sn 4578r; black type 4 grips; mag matching 655 acceptance and Type 3 proof.
    41 byf sn 5523r, E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 Frame, MM
    41 byf, sn 5596r, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08 frame, British proofs, refinished, black plastic grips
    41 byf sn 5719r, E/655, E/655, LTP
    41 byf sn 7346r, E/655 E/655, LTP, P.08 sideframe
    41 byf sn 8294r, E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 Frame,
    41 byf sn 83xxr,
    41 42 sn 8672r, E/655 E/655 LTP, P.08 (blk.grips)
    41 byf sn 89xxr, black grips
    41 byf sn 6xxs,
    41 byf sn 22xxs
    41 byf sn 3530s 655 655, LTP
    41 byf sn 54xxs
    41 byf sn 6002s, E655, E655, LTP, wooden grips, sear safety
    41 byf sn 80xxs
    41 byf sn 8875s, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 90xxs
    1940 42 sn 98xxs,
    41 byf sn 98xxs
    41 byf sn 257t, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 1011 t, E655/E655
    41 byf sn 20xxt,
    41 byf sn 36xxt,
    41 byf sn 46xxt,
    41 byf sn 4079 t, SE/655 SE/655, black grips matched, not mag
    41 byf sn 54xxt,
    41 byf sn 5416t E/655 E/655 LTP P.08, walnut grips, matching alum. base mags, P.08, fxo and 2 eagle 37 marks
    41 byf, sn 6408t, E/655 E/655, P08 frame, wood grips; Mags fxo with E/37 & P08 on the body, unnumbered aluminum bottom and black plastic bottom.
    41 byf sn 65xxt,
    41 byf sn 80xxt,
    41 byf sn 9964t, E/655, E/655, LTP
    41 byf sn 17u, E/655 E/655, LTP, P08 on slide
    41 byf, sn 468u, E/655, E/655 LTP P.08, matching fxo mag
    41 byf 1514u, SE/655 SE/655 LTP
    41 byf 1589u, SE/655 SE/655 LTP, matching mag
    41 byf sn 22xxu,
    41 byf sn 2258u, E655/E655 LTP
    41byf, sn 3997u E/655 matching mag, * on the barrel.
    41byf sn 60xxu, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 6319u, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 7345u, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08, black plastic grips, black plastic bottom E/37 FXO mags.
    41 byf sn 85xxu
    41 byf sn 85xxu,
    41 byf sn 93xxu,
    41 byf sn 9536u, E/655, E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 82v, E135 E135 LTP. Black grips, 2 matching FXO E/37 mags, barrel gauge
    41 byf sn1662v, E655 E655 LTP black grips
    41 byf sn 2455v, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41byf sn 30xxv, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn3493v E/655 E/655 LTP walnut w/93 & E/655
    41 byf sn 4877v, E/655, E/655, LTP, P.08 on frame, (black grips may not be original??)
    41 byf, sn 6263v, E/655 E/655 LTP, barrel gauge 8.82, P.08 on frame, wood grips, two black bottom fxo magazines.
    41 byf sn 6587v, E/655 E/655, LTP
    41 byf sn 9190v, E/655, E/655 LTP, black grips
    41 byf, sn 9661v, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08
    41 byf sn 429w E/655 E/655.
    41 byf sn1358w, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 16xxw
    41 byf sn 24xxw,
    41 byf sn2902w, E/655, E/655 LTP, black plastic grips
    41 byf sn 3446w, E655, E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 4027w, black plastic grips
    41 byf sn 70xxw,
    41 byf sn 7138w, E/655 E/655 LTP, black grips, fxo mags
    41byf sn 83xxw, E/655 E/655 LTP
    -----
    1940 42 sn 8383w, KM N/4285 ?doubtful, misread sn?
    -----
    41 byf sn 90xxw
    41 byf, sn 9828w, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08
    41 byf sn 2163x, E/655, E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 2199x, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf, 2812x, E/655 plastic grips
    41 byf sn 28xx@x@, black grips
    41byf sn 3497x E655,E655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 4041x, E/655 E/655 LTP, P08, walnut grips
    41 byf, sn 4271x, E/655 E/655 LTP, matching fxo mag, matching wood grips
    41 byf, sn 7676x, E/655 E/655 LTP, barrel gauge 8.84, P.08 on frame, wood grips
    41 byf sn 8024x E655 E655 LTP P.08, walnut grips, alum mag without numbers
    41 byf sn 9600x, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 1145y, E655, E655, spread E, marked p08 with a mag 2904n with a + and E63
    41 byf sn 12xxy
    41 byf sn 18xxy,
    41 byf, sn 3052y, E/655 E/655, P08 on frame
    41 byf sn 40xxy, black grips
    41 byf sn 50xxy,
    41 byf sn 5607y, E/655, E/655, LTP
    41 byf sn 7131y, E/655, E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 9041y, E/655 E/655; P.08 w/two unmarked alu bottomed magazines
    41 byf sn 9507y, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 396z , E/655 E/655, mag fxo E/37.
    41 byf sn 877z, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf, sn 1464z E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 left frame, black plastic grips
    41 byf sn 3746z, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 5248z, E/655 E/655
    41 byf sn 4208z, E655 E655 LTP, P08 on frame
    41 byf sn 6290z, E/655, E/655, LTP
    41 byf, sn 6634z, E/655 E/655, black plastic grips, P.08 on left frame
    41 byf, sn 6710z, E/655 E/655 LTP, P.08, black grips
    41 byf sn 81xxz,
    41 byf sn 8146z E/655 E/655, black grips
    41 byf sn 9274z, SE655 SE655 LTP bakelite grips and magazine, BNP proofed; 8-83, SE655 and LTP, on barrel
    41 byf sn 9275z, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 929, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf sn 16xx, black grips
    41 byf sn 1671, E/655 E/655 LTP (P.08 on frame)
    41 byf sn 1923, E/655 E/655 LTP (P.08 on frame) wood grips E/655
    41 byf sn 2158(ns) E/655 E/655, LTP, bottom of barrel: 2158 & 8,83, Black Plastic
    41 byf sn 4318, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf s/n 4627 E655/E655
    ----- start mixed acceptance stamps
    41 byf sn 4801, E/135, E/655
    byf 41, sn 4912, E/655 E/135 LTP; unumbered wood grips, black plastic bottom mag.
    41 byf sn 5614, E/655 E/135 LTP, black grips, PO8
    41 byf sn 58xx, E/655 E/135, black grips
    41 byf sn 5816, E/655, E/135, LTP
    41 byf sn 63xx
    41 byf sn 6345, E/655, E/135, LTP, (as issued VOPO)
    41 byf sn 6420, E/655 E/135 LTP
    41 byf sn 7491, E/655 E/135 LTP
    ----- end mixed acceptance stamps, start E/135 E/135 stamp
    41 byf, sn 7478, E/135 E/135, black plastic grips and magazine.
    41 byf, sn 7900ns, E/135 E/135, black plastic grips and magazine
    41 byf sn 8509, E/135, E/135, LTP
    41 byf sn xxa,
    41 byf sn 81a E/135 E/135, black grips
    41 byf sn 195a, E/135, E/135, LTP
    41 BYF sn 828a, SE135, SE135, LTP, black plastic grips
    41 byf sn 10xxa, E/135 E/135
    41 byf sn 11xxa, E/135 E/135
    41 byf, sn1787a, E/135 E/135.
    41 byf sn 20xxa, E/135 E/135, black grips
    41 byf sn 24xxa, E/135 E/135
    41 byf sn 32xxa,
    41 byf sn 5608a, E/135, E/135, LTP (P.08 left frame)41 byf sn 72xxa, E/135 E/135
    41 byf, sn 9234a, E/135 E/135 LTP
    41 byf, sn 9567a, E/135 E/135 LTP P.08, walnut grips, black mag
    41 byf sn 276b, E/135, E/135, LTP
    -----end byf 41
    42 byf sn 4409, E135 E135, blk grips, marked P.O8, mag fxo E37 (need letter suffix and if bore gauge)
    42 byf sn 8718 E135 E135, blk widow, marked P.O8, mag fxo E37
    42 byf, sn 68a, E/135 E/135 LTP, P 08, Black plastic grips, repro. barrel
    42 byf, sn 2006b, E/135 E/135 LTP, black plastic grips, FXO/37 black plastic bottom magazine
    42 byf sn 2238b, E135, E/135, LTP.
    42 byf, sn 3717b, E/135 E/135 LTP, P.08, black grips, Mag FXO E/37 P.08 Blk. Bottom.
    42 byf, sn 8042b (black grips)
    42 byf sn. 5122c, E135 E135 LTP, left barrel E/135, wood grips E/135 and numbered; barrel numbered and with bore gauge, mags. fxo, E/37, P.08, unnumbered aluminum bases. front toggle link has deep edge radius, square dot in P.08
    42 byf, 788d, black grips
    42 byf sn1359d, E135 E135 LTP; with matching # wood grips and plastic fxo E37 magazine.
    42 byf sn 2960d, has E/135, E/135, LTP. P08 on frame. E/135 walnut grips,
    42 byf sn, 3075d, E/135 E/135 LTP bore gauge 8.82
    42 byf, sn 4069d, no bore gauge. Wood grips numbered to gun.
    42 byf, sn6475d, E/135 E/135 LTP; Wood Grips: 75 and E/135.
    42 byf sn, 8453d, E/135 E/135 LTP no bore gauge
    42 byf sn 2744e, E/135 E/135 LTP
    42 byf sn 2894e, E/135 E/135
    42 byf, sn9427e, E/135 E/135, P08
    42 byf sn 9473e E/135 E/135, blk widow, marked P.08, mag fxo E37
    42 byf, sn 5290 f, wooden grips. "EKSI 1938" stamped in holster.
    42 byf, sn 7316f, E/135 E/135, P08
    42 byf, sn 1120g, E/135 E/135, black plastic grips and FXO mag
    42 byf sn, 2097g, E/135 E/135 LTP no bore gauge, FXO mag
    42 byf, sn 4554g, E/135 E/135.
    42 byf, sn 533h, waffenamt 135, fxo milled plastic bottom mag code #37, wood grips. found on the Prinz Eugen along with the aft battle flag
    42 byf sn, 720h, E/135 E/135 LTP no bore gauge
    42 byf, sn 1258h, E/135 E/135 LTP, (blk.grips)
    42 byf, sn 1973h, E/135 E/135 LTP P.08, black grips, black mags (no barrel gauge)
    42 byf sn 6362h, E/135 E/135
    42 byf sn 6805h. E/135 E/135. Wood grips no numbers or acc. stamps. Black plastic fxo mag.
    42 byf, sn 1185i E/135 E/135 wood grips fxo mag plastic bottom
    42 byf, sn 3722i, E/135 E/135 LTP, mag FXO E/37 plastic bottom
    42 byf, sn 2292k, E/135 E/135
    42 byf, sn 5475k, E/135 E/135 LTP, no barrel gauge, P.08 frame, walnut grips unnumbered; mag. fxo, e/37, P.08, blk plastic bottom
    42 byf, 1070L, E/135 E/135, LTP, no barrel gauge, P.08 frame, wood grips, magazine: fxo E/37 black plastic bottom.
    42 byf sn 2000L
    42 byf, sn 5109 L , E/135 E/135, P-08 on frame, black plastic grips,
    42 byf, sn 7537L, E/135 E?135 LTP,. No barrel gauge; P.08; Wood grips; Magazine fxo E/37 black plastic bottom
    42 byf, sn 7593L, E/135 E/135, wood grips, no barrel gauge, P.08 on left frame
    42 byf sn 3306m, SE135 SE135 LTP, no bore gage, black plastic grips; mag black plastic unnumbered bottom; Portugese holster.
    42 byf, sn 4890m, E/135 E/135 LTP, Wood Grips, no bore gauge, Portugese Contract
    42 byf, sn 3800n, E/135 E/135
    42 byf sn 6768n Black grips135 (sn reported as a p)

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    42 42, sn 6356a, E/135 E/135 LTP, barrel German Nitro crown and N on the barrel. Magazine sn matches the pistol. Pistol is roughly manufactured and has unpolished grinder marks visible. Trigger slide plate is missing. Finish is 97% and the black bakelite grips look like new.
    I'm guessing it's a 1942 Mauser that was manufactured not long before the Russians were storming Munich. Out of sequence production
    42 42, sn 7141g, E/135 E/135 LTP (out of sequence)
    1940 byf, sn 4340b, E/655 E/655 LTP (out of sequence) barrel E/655, matching magazine + type two army E/655, E/655 and numbered grips.
    41 42 sn 3731KU SE/83 L/E P08 ????
    41 byf, sn KU1465, E/655 L/E P08 ??
    41 byf sn.1261KU, LZA rt. rec.; barrel no sn, marked W154 S/42 LZA
    Note: This table contains serial number data from Forum members, Third Reich Lugers, and selected Simpson€™s lists. Those without acceptance stamp information and with an €œxx€ in the last two digits of the serial number are from Simpson€™s lists. Please add information and feel free to indicate corrections or mistakes by posting here.
    Thanks
    Jan

    Preliminary notes on 41 42 serial range and production Updated 03/21/05
    Reported 41 42 serial range 2716n -4030o. This serial range has a production of 13000 (splitting range between beginning and ending serial numbers). Note:1940 42 and 41 byf also interspersed in this range. This range contains 25 lugers, 17 of these are 41 42, 4 of these are 1940 42, and 4 of these are 41 byf. Based on splitting area of influence between each serial number the estimated production of 41 42 in this serial range is 8800, 1940 42 is 2000, and 41 byf is 2200.

    Jan

    Pete supplied this list of sn letter sufixes.


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    I'll jump in with what looks like an unmessed with other than being dipped Russian capture. 1940 code 42 sn 7769n E/655, black grips, and un-numbered fxo mag.

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    David
    Thanks for the information. Table updated.
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    Jan,
    Here's some more numbers from 40/41's,
    1940/42 7521c - E655,
    1940/42 7469e - E655,
    1940/42 3606f - E655,
    1941 byf 3446w - E655
    Hope this is what you're looking for.
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    Jan,

    I'll get mine in.......

    1940-42 SN 524d E/655 E/655
    1940-42 SN 7890d E/655 E/655
    41-42 SN 9365n E/655 E/655
    41 byf SN 7q E/655 E/655
    41 byf SN 2163x E/655 E/655
    41 byf SN 7131y E/655 E/655
    41 byf SN 6420 E/655 E/135

    Not much but if it can help the data......

    MARC

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    Tom and Kidvett
    Thanks for the information. Table updated.
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    Hi Jan,
    * With a certain amount of presumption (markings & otherwise), let me offer a couple from our very own Forum Archives:

    (#1) 41 byf SN 5023o E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 Frame Matched Mag Owner SakiJoe
    (#2) 41 byf SN 5523r E/655 E/655 LTP P.08 Frame Matched Mag Owner SakiJoe
    found in thread http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic...chTerms=41,byf

    * Another real "gudun" for the transition is:
    (#3) 41-42 SN 2716n E/655 E/655 LTP No P.08 Frame mark Owner Dan
    as found in thread http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic...chTerms=41,byf
    Note: Dan reported 1 matched mag. However, a picture of this mag was not posted.

    Trust this helps.

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    Bob
    Thanks for the information. Table updated.
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    Jan,

    1940 42 code, Sn: 4593d, E/655 E/655 LTP
    41 byf Sn: 1671(ns), E/655 E655 LTP (P.08 on frame)

    Charles

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    Charles
    Thanks for the information. Table updated.
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