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    Default G Date Data Request, Continued

    G DATE SERIAL NUMBERS, WITH KM AND POLICE DATA, AND ACCEPTANCE STAMPS (aaa) Data supplied by members of both Forums and gathered by Frank and Still. KM data from Third Reich Lugers page 106.
    Please post additional G date information.
    Thanks Jan

    Updated July11, 2011. The following combinations of serial numbers and acceptance stamps been observed or reported:
    K date, sn 1041a reported
    (1400a, estimated transition from K date to G date June 7, 2008)
    1471a, B90 S91
    1736a, B90 S91 ETP; no hump,
    2155a B90--S91
    2800a B/90--S/91
    3000a B90--S91
    3770a B90--S91
    4190a B90--S91
    4223a, B90, S 91

    4229a B90--S91
    4249a B90--S91
    4250a. B90 S91 ETP. Bore gauge 8.82. Walnut grips with big 50. Magazine 3065a DE/154.

    4288a, B90--S91
    *4849a B90--S91
    4947a B90-S92, 1920/G OVER CHAMBER. Barrel: 4947, 8,83, B90, ETP. Norwegian dip from Doug Smith.
    5102a B90-S91
    5305a B/90 S/91 "+" matching mag w/B/90 acceptance5481a, B90 S91, with 1 matching mag, B90
    5481a, B90 S91, 1 matching mag B90 no +
    5486a W154--S92 (confirmed with photographs)
    5670a, B90 S91 , ETP. Mag. B90 5403a

    5887a B90--S91

    6109a B90--S92
    6395a B90--S92
    6479a B90--S92
    6623a W154--S92?
    6712a B90--S92
    6885a B90--S92
    6941a B90--S92
    7073a W154--S92
    7158a W154--S92
    7200a B90--S92

    7211a W154--S92
    7356a B90--S92
    7369a B90--S92 The mag is matching number but E63 proofed.
    7466a W154--S92
    7578a W154--S92; Magazine nickel plated crimped; bottom: 7578 / a / B90
    7875a W154--S92
    8069a W154--S92
    8345a W154--S92
    8537a W154--S92
    8628a W154--S92 (Mag.. 9398a , B90, K date?)
    8631a W154/S92. B90 proof on barrel. Grips appear original with no #.
    9244a W154--S92
    9324a, W154, S92.
    9344a W154-- S92
    9458a. W154--S92
    9792a W154--S92
    259b W154--S92, large S and sharp barrel band, mag crimped plated 259/b/+/DE154
    539b W154--S92 large S and sharp barrel band, mag crimped plated 539/b/DE154
    613b W154--S 92. The first E in the safety has the bottom bar missing
    628b W154--S92
    735b W154--S92
    808b W154--S92
    829b W154--S92
    1504b W154BS92
    1688b W154--S92
    2895b W154--S92
    3340b W154--S92 (two matched Police magazines, but no sear safety) comments?
    6018b W154--S92
    6463b W154--S92
    6497b W154--S92
    6956b W154--S92, Barrel.W154, mag matching DE/154
    6969b W154--S92, matching mag DE63
    8221b W154 S92
    8452b W154BS92
    8463b W154BS92 8560b W154--S92
    8846b W154--S92
    9236b W154--S92
    9329b W154--S92
    9829b W154BS92
    5c W154--S92
    97c W154--S92
    399c W154--S92
    661c, W154 S/92, sharp-short barrel band, no hump
    1081c W154--S92
    1772c W154--S92
    1849c W154--S92
    2512c W154--S92
    2736c W154BS92
    3514c W154--S92
    3757c W154--S92 (mag 3257c W154)
    4854c W154--S92
    5008c W154--S92
    5529c W154--S92
    5756c W154--S92
    5887c W154--S92
    6569b W154--S/92
    6669c W154-- S92
    7328c W154-- S92
    7449c W154-- S92
    7622c W154-- S92
    7895c W154--S92
    8021c W154--S92
    8059c W154--S92, 2 matching mags, no sear or mag safety
    8735c W154--S92
    9020c W154--S92
    9311c W154-- S92
    9840c W154 S92 Matching mag DE 154 no frame hump.

    269d DE/211--S92
    457d, W154, S92.
    691d W154BS92
    723d W154--S92

    822d DE/211--S92 (730d E/211 Mag.)
    943d has a matching "+" mag with DE 154 acceptance
    1030d DE211--S921131d DE211--S92
    1131d, DE/211 S-92 ETP, Matching except clip. Reblued and Restrawed.

    1347d DE 211--S92
    1778d E/211--S/92
    2133d DE/211--S92
    2154d DE211--S92 (2159d W154 Mag?)
    2197 "d" DE211 S92 (w/2197d mag)
    2301d DE/211--S92
    2323d DE/211--S92
    2344d---- KM N 1082
    2377d DE/211--S92
    2454d E/211-- S/92
    2626d---- KM O.1431
    2641d DE/211--S92
    2741d DE/211--S92
    2964d DE/211--S92
    3176d---- DE/211--S92 KM E/M(2) N1138
    3253d DE/211--S92 (matching mag 3253d DE/211)
    3266d---- KM O.2014
    3278d DE/211--S92
    3394d DE211 S92
    3682d----DE/211--S92, KM 0.2442
    3697d---- KM N 993
    3791d DE/211--S92
    3860 d , E/211 S-92 ETP, reichsmarine eagle M- front grip strap N-1133, no frame ear hump.
    3868d---- KM O.2440
    3976d---- KM N 1022
    3992d---- KM O.2464
    4003d DE/211--S92
    4026d DE 211, S92
    4212d DE/211BS92, barrel DE/211, grips unnumbered, KM N1677 without KM eagle
    4249d---- KM O.2097
    4311d DE/63--S/92
    4398d DE/63--S92, Barrel. DE/211
    4437d DE/211--S92
    4504d---- KM N1091
    4522d---- KM N1180
    4548d DE/211BS92
    4599d DE/211BS92
    4464d---- KM N 1646
    4770d DE/211--S92 (5207d E/211 Mag.)
    4879d DE/211BS92, KM 0.2473, matching mag 4849 / d / DE/211
    4922d DE211-- S92; O.1474 on frontstrap without KM Eagle. Barrel DE211, grips unmarked . 5272d DE/211--S92
    5360d, DE63 S92 with two matching mags, DE211, rig
    5462d DE/63--S/92
    5518d DE/63--S/92
    5623d DE/63--S/92 matching mag 5623d eagle/63
    5690d DE/63--S/92
    5936d DE/63--S/92
    5963d DE/63--S/92
    6471d DE63 S/92

    6523d---- KM 0.2717
    6575d DE/63 S/92
    6636d DE/63--S/92
    6794d DE/63--S/92
    6805d DE/63 S/92
    6942d DE63--S92
    6943d DE/63--S/92
    7348d DE63--S/92 --mag is 8707e with E/154
    7422d DE/63--S/92, mag 7422/d, DE/63.
    7437d DE63 S92

    8096d DE/63--DE/63
    8752d DE/63--DE/63
    8549d DE/63-DE/63
    9442d, DE/63--DE/63
    9599d DE/63-DE/63
    9830d DE/63--DE/63
    9838d DE/63--DE/63
    42e DE63--DE63
    200e DE/63--DE/63
    237e DE63 DE63
    417e DE/63BDE/63 *?(Typo? Not counted)
    1051e; DE63/DE63
    1398e DE/63BDE/63
    1417e DE/63BDE/63*
    1690e---- Police Sear Safety
    2199e DE63--DE/63
    2508e DE63--DE/63
    2759e DE/63--DE/63
    2971e DE/63--DE/63
    3343e DE/63BDE/63
    3438 e DE63

    3705e DE/63--D/E63
    3823e DE/63--DE/63
    4003e DE/63 -- DE/63... matching DE/63 mag; grips not numbered
    4338e. D E/63BDE63. mags E/63
    4407e, DE/63,D/E63, 1 DE/63 mag, grips numbered 07.
    4621e, DE/63, DE/63; 4895e DE63 DE634991e DE63--DE/63
    5111e DE/63--DE/63
    5613e DE/63--DE/63
    5745e DE/63--DE/63
    6008e DE/63--DE/63
    6032e DE/63--DE/63
    6348e, DE/63--DE/63
    6458e---- KM N1306
    6523e---- KM O.2717
    6919e---- KM N 1341
    7228e, KM N/1368, DE 63 DE 63, no hump
    7218e DE/63--DE/63
    7937e---- KM O.2634
    8304e DE/63--DE/63
    9212e, DE/63-DE/63
    9336e---- Police Sear Safety
    9354e---- Police Sear Safety
    9369e DE/63--DE/63
    9376e DE/63--DE/63
    9409e---- Police Sear Safety
    9419e---- Police Sear Safety
    9430e---- Police Sear Safety
    9448e---- Police Sear Safety
    9460e---- Police Sear Safety
    9491e DE/63BDE/63 Police Sear Safety; #1 HS matching mag
    9524e---- Police Sear Safety
    9602e DE/63BDE/63
    9657e Police with both original HS mags. Came with a DE63 tool that was stamped 9376 on the back and I want to think it was done by the Police.

    9748e---- Police Sear Safety
    9784e---- Police Sear Safety
    9816e---- Police Sear Safety
    9826e Police, DE/63 DE/63 matching# HS mags, tool, holster[1934 Fischer]

    9931e DE/63 DE/63, Police Sear Safety, mag safety removed and slot filled; Mag HS, bottom: 1 / 9931 / H; 1915 holster modified to police and numbered to gun.
    70f DE/63--DE/63
    468f DE/63--DE/63. All matching, 96% no mag.
    442f DE/63--DE/63820f DE/63--DE/63
    830f, DE63 DE63, with 1 matching mag, DE63, rig
    965f----- KM N 1299
    1015f---- KM N1185
    1016f---- KM N 1213
    1289f---- KM N 1292
    1382f---- KM N 1382
    1481f---- KM N1344
    1490f---- KM N 1300
    1509f, KM N/1295, DE63 DE63, no hump, N 1295 KM mag
    1689f DE/63BDE63
    1869f---- KM N 1309
    1937f DE/63BDE63, Police sear safety, 2mm
    1989f DE/63--DE/63
    *2043f DE/63--DE/63 Police Sear Safety
    2079f DE/63--DE/63 Police Sear Safety & unit marked
    2216f DE63 DE63
    2357f DE/63--DE/63
    2517f KM N/1270
    2632f DE/63--DE/63; matching mag DE/63
    2723f----- KM N 1302
    2846f DE/63--DE/63
    *2927f DE/63--DE/63 KM N 1376
    3804f DE/63--DE/63, Barrel DE/63
    4304f DE/63--DE/636035f DE/63--DE/63 (not confirmed)
    4737f; DE63/DE63 all matching but Russian dip blue
    (6000f? estimated transition from G date to 1936 date)

    G DATE VARIATIONS: SERIAL NUMBER RANGES, ACCEPTANCE STAMPS, AND ESTIMATED PRODUCTION (Using interpolation and then rounding to approx. numbers. Note: police sear safety and KM without acceptance stamp information not counted in total )Updated 03/25/2005
    Accept. Stamps - Number Rep.-Serial Range -- Est. No. Lugers Mfg.
    B90--S91 ---------- 7 ---------- 930a to 6000a -------- 5,070 Lugers

    B90--S92 ---------- 4 --------- 6000a to 7200a ------- 1,200 Lugers

    W154--S92 -------- 40 --------- 7200a to 800d --------- 23,600 Lugers

    DE/211--S92 ------ 19 ----(269d)800d to 5150d --------- 4,350 Lugers

    DE/63--S/92 ------ 6 ---------- 5150d to 7500d ------- 2,350 Lugers

    DE/63–DE/63(end 6000f?) 31 ---- 7500d to 6000f ------- 18,500 Lugers

    Total --------- 106 -------- 930a to 6000f --------- 55,070
    Jan C Still
    Site Owner - Operator

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    That early DWE 211 S92 proofed G date from my earlier post should be 269d and not 296d. I also have G date 820f dwe 63 DWE 63.
    Jared V.

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    Correction made and information added to table.
    Jan C Still
    Site Owner - Operator

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    1937f DE/63–DE63, Police sear safety, 2mm added
    Jan C Still
    Site Owner - Operator

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    8221b W154 S92
    237e DE63 DE63

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    Thanks for the information. Table updated.
    Jan C Still
    Site Owner - Operator

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    These are the data of my 'G':
    1. 6479a B90 -- S92
    2. 3757c W154 -- S92 (mag 3257c W154)
    3. 3253d DE/211 -- S92 (matching mag 3253d DE/211)
    4. 5613e DE/63 -- DE/63
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
    Analysis of a Million Luger Pistols

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    Thanks for your G date information. Table updated.
    Jan C Still
    Site Owner - Operator

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    FL, USA.


    G date luger 4825 E DE63/ DE63

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    G-Date #4169b; W 154, blank, Eary proof .I have exaimed gun under magnification, and it appears that NO second proof mark was applied.
    Your thoughts?

    The Trumpasaurus rules!! Yea, I think ?

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