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Thread: F. L. Selbstlader - Langenhan

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    Jaselnewpar Guest

    Default F. L. Selbstlader - Langenhan

    Hello,
    I recently came across one of these hand guns when my girlfriends grand-father passed away. Supposedly the grand-father procured the weapon when escorting or taking an officer into custody in WWII.
    I am looking for any information regarding this gun, and for possible appraisal (though I don't believe the family has plans to sell it). I am also looking for a basic operation, and disassembly instructions as it needs a little cleaning.
    The gun came with two clips, one I think may actually be for a .22 hand gun, and the other with I believe is the correctly clip, has been damaged.
    I believe the gun model number is D.R.G.M. 625263-633251, a possible serial number of 18765. And some kind of machine stamping on the handle - 27.A.2.2. which from other posts seem to be the company or division the gun was assigned to.

    **Update:
    I found this site:
    http://proofhouse.com/cm/codes_markings.htm
    That states the 27. in the machine stamp stands for:
    "27 WW-II German ordnance code assigned to B. Geipel GmbH, Waffenfabrik Erma, Erfurt, Germany.
    27 WW-II German ordnance code assigned to Feinmachanische Werke GmbH, Erfert, Germany." but I'm not sure what this means

    Here are the links that came back when I searched your site:
    http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...ms=Selbstlader
    http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...ms=Selbstlader

    And also basic google search information:
    http://guns.connect.fi/gow/QA17.html




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    Your time will be much appreciated.
    Thanks!

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    Jaselnewpar
    Your Langenhan (also called FL Selbstlader) is in .32 caliber and was manufactured during World War I. About 70,000 of these were manufactured for the Imperial Germam Army.

    The 27.A.2.2. signifies 27 th Field Artillery Regiment, Batterie 2, Weapon number 2. During World War I this Field Artillery Regiment was part of the 21 and 204 Infantry Divisions and battled on the Eastern and Western Fronts.

    If this gun comes up for sale please let me know as I collect these.
    Jan
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    Jaselnewpar Guest

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    Hello Jan,
    Thanks for the response and good info.
    Unfortunately I don't know too much about WW1. I tried doing a Google search and couldn't find much on the German 27th regiment.
    I am particularly interested, and am currently researching how an American GI would have acquired this gun from an officer in WWII.
    I always thought German officers in WW2 carried lugers, so I can't imagine why any officer would carry a 20 year old, obsolete pistol into battle. Was this a common gun in WW2?
    I will be going to a gun show this weekend; do you think I'll be able to find a clip or two? If so, is there any way I can tell if it will be correct without popping it in? They zip tie the guns at the door so they can't be cocked, and they kick you out if you remove it.

    Thanks again for the help,
    Jay

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    Jay,
    It usually is permissable to remove the zip tie to disassemble a gun to examine it or to check the fit of a part, but another tie must be installed before leaving the table. It is NEVER permissable to check the functionality of a magazine with cartridges.
    If it is made after 1918...it is a reproduction.

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    Jaselnewpar Guest

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    Ron,
    Thanks for the heads up.
    I guess I'll stick with eye balling the broken clip, unless anybody has any other suggestions.

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