This 4.25mm pistol is similar to the Menz Liliput. Unlike every Menz I've seen, this pistol does not have a full length slide. Also, the recoil spring is above the barrel and hooked to the slide via a rod, much like a Steyr .25.
The pistol is unmarked except for D.R.P., Crown N proofs, and the serial number. Other than finding the patent, I don't know how to identify this piece.
Thank you for any information that you can provide.
this is a tough nut to crack, for sure! Well, I have all German patents relating to pistols, but it isn’t easy to get the matching one. One (!) reason: patents normally do show sectional drawings and most often only details of the pistol. Can you take a saw and make a cutaway of it? Would make it MUCH easier….
OK, so far the best match seems to be German patent No 361,177 filed on May 23, 1921 by Franz Karpinski in Charlottenburg (Berlin).
He had some other patents, one of which he owned together with a company Nordflugwerke. Never heard of Karpinski, never heard of Nordflugwerke – in connection with pistols. So, it would be most interesting, if we really could make a connection between your (?) pistol and Karpinski.
Can you show us more details of this pocket cannon?
this is a tough nut to crack, for sure! Well, I have all German patents relating to pistols, but it isn’t easy to get the matching one. One (!) reason: patents normally do show sectional drawings and most often only details of the pistol. Can you take a saw and make a cutaway of it? Would make it MUCH easier….
OK, so far the best match seems to be German patent No 361,177 filed on May 23, 1921 by Franz Karpinski in Charlottenburg (Berlin).
He had some other patents, one of which he owned together with a company Nordflugwerke. Never heard of Karpinski, never heard of Nordflugwerke – in connection with pistols. So, it would be most interesting, if we really could make a connection between your (?) pistol and Karpinski.
Can you show us more details of this pocket cannon?
Bruno your pistol I believe is a Langenhan Model 3 in 6.35mm
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