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Thread: Looking for BERGMANN BAYARD owners: communication for survey

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    Have a contribution to add.

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    You can count me in.
    Collecting data about Brazilian Lugers.

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    Can't help with the survey, but during our work on the Paul Mauser book, we did uncover some interesting facts about the relationship between Paul Mauser and Theodor Bergmann.

    Co-Author 'The Parabellum Is Back! 1945-2000'.

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    Me too. Think I've posted details of mine already on the forum sometime last year.

    Mike

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    I know it is a difficult task, but I'm looking for a main spring (the one in the grip) and a new set of wooden grips, in case any of you has a spare.
    Thanks,
    Douglas.
    Collecting data about Brazilian Lugers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas_Jr View Post
    I know it is a difficult task, but I'm looking for a main spring (the one in the grip) and a new set of wooden grips, in case any of you has a spare.
    Thanks,
    Douglas.
    Hi Douglas, which spring the curved 1908/1910 factory spring or the straight Danish conversion?

    Thanks
    Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlim View Post
    Can't help with the survey, but during our work on the Paul Mauser book, we did uncover some interesting facts about the relationship between Paul Mauser and Theodor Bergmann.
    Did any of it have to do with pistol development?

    Thanks
    Anthony
    Author of FN Browning Pistols, FN Mauser Rifles, Holsters & Shoulder-Stocks of the World
    Co-author of Allied Rifle Contracts, Browning Auto-5 Shotguns
    Publisher of VIS Radom, The FN-49
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    Anthony,

    The original, curved one.
    One of the guns I rescue from an attic last year is a Bergmann Bayard.
    Still with a good amount of original finish, but the grips were rotten and the spring rust and broke.
    Everything else is surprisingly good.
    Douglas.
    Collecting data about Brazilian Lugers.

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    count me in Anthony

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    GONRA's contribution to the Survey:
    5651 9mm Bergman-Bayard caliber
    Danish 1910/21 Bergmann-Bayard, HAERENS TOJHUS mfg.?

    Nearly 1000 rds. Midway NC ammo.

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    IMG_1196.jpgIMG_1197.jpgIMG_1198.jpgIMG_1199.jpgHello! Great to see your project! Will attempt to describe recent find. PLEASE feel free to ask for photos or additional info if I leave something out. My little treasure is a model 1910 made by AEP (standard AEP mark left side of barrel extension). Has trolit grips numbered to last 3 digits of serial #. The rear sight, block in front of sight, barrel/slide assembly, match frame # . Has improved, non-matching bolt assembly with improved extractor & screw for side-plate. Left side of frame @ rear marked with crown over "D" (Danish proof). Right side of frame @ rear has # 40 (Danish inventory?) Left side of barrel extension marked @ mid-point with "M. 1910/21". Left side front of barrel extension marked "BREVETE." over "S.D.G.D". Right side of barrel has numerous Belgian proofs. Additional very small identical proofs @ right front of barrel extension & right rear of frame. I read that pre-WWI, AEP guns to Danish, numbered 4840 units. Perhaps I'm incorrectly assuming that serial #s began @ or near #1. Then with a 4840 unit total, why is mine numbered 51XX, especially with what appears to be a relatively low Danish inventory #40? More photos upon request.
    Last edited by Florida Cracker; 01-17-2017 at 09:06 PM. Reason: Photos

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