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    Default New black grips data request

    At the risk of beating a dead dog to death, I would like to understand which grips went with which guns and how many variations (or manufacturers) there may have been. Perhaps the back of the grips will give us some clues. As a place to start I’m listing what I have in my data base:

    TYPE 1: Exactly like coarse brown HK grips. Randall Gibson lists as 1944 sub-type. 2 holes on each side. Found on:
    1940 42 2520f
    1940 42 3099h
    1940 42 3615h
    1940 42 4478h
    1940 42 4883h
    1940 42 4992h
    1940 42 5946h
    1940 42 577L
    1940 42 966m
    1940 42 2237m
    1940 42 3434m
    1940 42 5103m
    1940 42 9433m
    1940 42 2046n
    1940 42 2049n
    41-42 6952n
    41 BYF 6649v
    41 BYF 5807z
    41 BYF 8146z
    42 BYF 2006b
    42 BYF 3483k
    42 BYF 1893h
    42 BYF 1003m
    1943 HK 11533

    TYPE 2: R/H side same as Type 1 but different on L/H side. Found on: 1942 HK 11907

    TYPE 3: One hole high on each side.
    Found on: 41 BYF 6544p
    41 BYF 9154p .... came with 2 original matching alum bottom mags
    41 BYF 5021q
    41 BYF 5652q .... has original matching alum bottom mag
    41 BYF 6125q .... has original matching alum bottom mag
    41 BYF 6244q
    41 BYF 6299q .... has original matching alum bottom mag
    41 BYF 6857q
    41 BYF 6971q .... has original matching alum bottom mag
    41 BYF 6982q
    41 BYF 9858s
    42 BYF 1973h
    42 BYF 2394n

    TYPE 4: One hole low on each side.
    Found on:
    1940 HK 10743
    1940 HK 11142
    1940 BYF 1389m
    41-42 6021n
    41-42 8672r
    41 BYF 606p
    41 BYF 7775p
    41 BYF 1161r
    41 BYF 1991r
    41 BYF 4578r
    41 BYF 5436r
    41 BYF 6269r
    41 BYF 220s
    41 BYF 450s
    41 BYF 631s
    41 BYF 1207s ... Matching Alum mag see post #399
    41 BYF 2149s
    41 BYF 4424s
    41 BYF 8985t
    41 BYF 9301t
    41 BYF 2786u
    41 BYF 49v
    41 BYF 2902w
    41 BYF 7138w
    41 BYF 7345w
    41 BYF 9566x
    41 BYF 3269y
    41 BYF 3600y
    41 BYF 7131y
    41 BYF 888z
    41 BYF 1512z
    41 BYF 2998z
    41 BYF 4116z
    41 BYF 6241z
    41 BYF 1859 NS
    41 BYF 1972 NS
    41 BYF 2357 NS
    41 BYF 3220 NS
    41 BYF 4185 NS
    41 BYF 4656 NS
    41 BYF 6108 NS
    41 BYF 7564 NS
    41 BYF 81a 41
    BYF 2222a 41
    BYF 2525a 41
    BYF 6556a
    41 BYF 6784a
    42 BYF 4409 NS
    42 BYF 4933b
    42 BYF 9752b
    42 BYF 954c
    42 BYF 1139c
    42 BYF 4557c
    42 BYF 4665c
    42 BYF 7221c
    42 BYF 3592d
    42 BYF 4992d
    42 BYF 2947e
    42 BYF 2238f
    42 BYF 5785f
    42 BYF 6391g
    42 BTF 8882G
    42 BYF 3149h
    42 BYF 4000h
    42 BYF 4243h
    42 BYF 8697h
    42 BYF 3149k
    42 BYF 1659L
    42 BYF 231L
    42 Banner 8282y
    42 Banner Commercial 9002w plain alum FXO mag

    TYPE 5: One hole each side. L/H low-- R/H high. R/H lug on R/H grip narrow.
    Found on:
    1940 42 6410d
    1940 42 3619e
    1940 42 4347h
    41 Banner 6946w
    41 Banner 6956w –
    Portugal Navy 41 Banner Commercial 790y
    41 Banner 813y
    42 Banner Commercial 7924w
    42 Banner Commercial 7987w
    42 Banner Commercial 8131w
    42 Banner Commercial 8147w
    42 BYF Commercial 8264w E/N strawed small parts
    42 Banner Commercial 9023w
    42 Banner 9046w
    42 Banner 9350w
    41 BYF 5788r
    41 BYF 1021s
    41 BYF 8760s
    41 BYF 7953t .... has both original alum bottom matching mags
    41 BYF 127u
    41 BYF 4052y
    42 BYF 4041b
    42 BYF 3519h
    42 BYF 4527h
    42 BYF 8316h
    42 BYF 1641i
    42 BYF 2271k
    42 BYF 5332k
    42 BYF 934L
    42 BYF 2462L
    42 BYF 7999L
    42 BYF 337m
    42 BYF 937m
    1942 HK 11772
    1943 HK 11337
    1943 HK 11567
    no date HK 11795 - see post #411
    1944 HK 11244
    1944 HK 11298

    TYPE 6: One hole each side. L/H low--R/H high. R/H lug on R/H grip wider.
    Found on:
    1940 Banner Dutch Safety 7218v
    1940 Banner 6500w (9mm)
    1940-42 7339NS
    1940-42 9940f
    41-42 4104r
    41 BYF 7273o .. Has original & matching mag
    41 BYF 976p
    41 BYF 2483p ... has both original matching alum mags
    41 BYF 9332p
    41 BYF 9394p
    41 BYF 976r
    41 BYF 4273r
    41 BYF 5048r
    41 BYF 5523r
    41 BYF 6150r
    41 BYF 9373r
    41 BYF 1193s
    41 BYF 1463s
    41 BYF 2083s
    41 BYF 4196s
    41 BYF 9777s
    41 BYF 681t
    41 BYF 155u
    41 BYF 687u
    41 BYF 1234u
    41 BYF 2258u
    41 BYF 2667u
    41 BYF 4033u
    41 BYF 6188v
    41 BYF 660w
    41 BYF 1358w
    41 BYF 1736w
    41 BYF 5537w
    41 BYF 7855w
    41 BYF 1121x
    41 BYF 2812x
    41 BYF 5168x
    41 BYF 6446x
    41 BYF 8474x
    41 BYF 9600x
    41 BYF 3052y
    41 BYF 3174y
    41 BYF 3438y
    41 BYF 3577y
    41 BYF 1511z
    41 BYF 1636z
    41 BYF 2765z

    41 BYF 2915z
    41 BYF 3090z
    41 BYF 6290z
    41 BYF 232NS
    41 BYF 1722NS
    41 BYF 2319NS
    41 BYF 4318NS
    41 BYF 4892NS
    41 BYF 5816NS
    41 BYF 6275NS
    41 BYF 6375NS
    41 BYF 6558NS
    41 BYF 7444NS
    41 BYF 7491NS
    41 BYF 7648NS
    41 BYF 7900NS
    41 BYF 828a
    41 BYF 1449a
    42 BYF 6712b
    42 BYF 7860b
    42 BYF 135c
    42 BYF 1822c
    42 BYF 4089c
    42 BYF 4796c
    42 BTF 802d
    42 BYF 4173d
    42 BYF 1010e
    42 BYF 2892e
    42 BYF 3902e
    42 BYF 9656e
    42 BYF 2113g
    42 BYF 3797g
    42 BYF 3858g
    42 BYF 3289h
    42 BYF 3368h
    42 BYF 6316h
    42 BYF 9368h
    42 BYF 231i
    42 BYF 1128i
    42 BYF 1405i
    42 BYF 1631i
    42 BYF 2345i
    42 BYF 3392i
    42 BYF 5279i
    42 BYF 6182i
    42 BYF 9957i
    42 BYF 5972k
    42 BYF 9741k
    42 BYF 1305L
    42 BYF 2462L
    42 BYF 2571L
    42 BYF 2645L
    42 BYF 3364L
    42 BYF 3681L
    42 BYF 3730L
    42 BYF 5061L
    42 BYF 8447L
    42 BYF 2363m –
    Portuguese 42 BYF 4005m –
    Portuguese Army 42 BYF 4856m –
    Portuguese 42 BYF 5012m –
    Portuguses 42 BYF 8279w –
    Portuguese 42 Banner Commercial 8538w
    42 Banner Commercial 8554w
    42 Banner Commercial 8611w
    42 Banner Commercial 9115w
    42 Banner Commercial 9119w
    42 Banner Commercial 9147w
    42 Banner Commercial 9222w
    42 Banner Commercial 9350w
    1942 Banner Police 6206y Post War—
    French Control -- 311(star) Post War—
    American Control-- HK 156

    Some that don’t fit the patterns:
    41 BYF 7091p....LH 3 R/H 4 ...
    41 BYF 6298q..... L/H 3 R/H 4
    41 BYF 5268s...... L/H 1 R/H 3
    41 BYF 4747N..... L/H 1 R/H 4
    42 BYF 5195b..... L/H 1 R/H 4
    42 BYF 959......... L/H 3 R/H 4
    42 BYF 2439i ...... L/H 5 R/H 2
    42 Banner 8712w.. L/H 5 R/H 1
    1942 Banner 2374y... L/H 1 R/H 3 RG HK Black 44 Type
    41 BYF 1255p ...Police issue. See post #296 COMMENTS: R/H side the same on Type 1; 2. L/H side the same on 3 & 4 except for the hole location. Might suggest same company but different mold???
    4 &5 L/H the same and 3 has the same keeper pattern but the hole location and size is different.
    3, 4 & 5 R/H side rear keeper slightly different on all three. INFO NEEDED: I would appreciate knowing if any of your guns match any of the six types I’ve listed. If you could provide year, maker, and serial number I would update the list and perhaps we can all learn something. It might also be interesting if you would also note if any have original matching alum bottom magazines.
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    Last edited by Edward Tinker; 10-29-2019 at 10:24 AM.
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