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    Quote Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair View Post
    There is a super glaring cosmetic error on this fine holster. I cannot recall seeing it before in the 30 years I have been looking at Luger holsters! Anyone else see it?
    I actually think I known what you're referring to. Are you talking about the abnormally long relief cut below the buckle? I actually meant to compare it to my others yesterday to see, it did catch my attention. I just checked my others and none of them have it, though I'm a fairly new collector and not totally sure if that's what you're referencing.

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    Gary, I agree that it is truly a very nice holster but that no one else has noticed this cosmetic error confirms my belief that not many people actually look at holsters all that closely. Like I already said, 30 years and I have NEVER seen this and it is as plain as the hands on a clock. YOU don't see it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser1908 View Post
    I actually think I known what you're referring to. Are you talking about the abnormally long relief cut below the buckle? I actually meant to compare it to my others yesterday to see, it did catch my attention. I just checked my others and none of them have it, though I'm a fairly new collector and not totally sure if that's what you're referencing.
    Sam, NO! That's not it. But the buckle & leather assembly is odd enough on it's own. The slot for the tongue on your holster IS overly deep & square. Not what you would normally see. It is usually cut in an oval shape low enough to accommodate the downward swing of a fully opened buckle tongue. But the steel tongue shape at the end is another oddity. Normally this is flared slightly, pointed and flattened.curved on the underside to lay flat upon the roller. This one appears to be none of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair View Post
    Gary, I agree that it is truly a very nice holster but that no one else has noticed this cosmetic error confirms my belief that not many people actually look at holsters all that closely. Like I already said, 30 years and I have NEVER seen this and it is as plain as the hands on a clock. YOU don't see it?

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    Sam, NO! That's not it. But the buckle & leather assembly is odd enough on it's own. The slot for the tongue on your holster IS overly deep & square. Not what you would normally see. It is usually cut in an oval shape low enough to accommodate the downward swing of a fully opened buckle tongue. But the steel tongue shape at the end is another oddity. Normally this is flared slightly, pointed and flattened.curved on the underside to lay flat upon the roller. This one appears to be none of that.
    I see what you mean Jerry, here's a photo of the underside. Do you think it's factory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser1908 View Post
    I see what you mean Jerry, here's a photo of the underside. Do you think it's factory?

    106771365_1434604540080840_4123198252235382872_n.jpg
    Sam, There are obviously going to be small variations on Luger buckles. I can't see that this would be anything but factory. I suspect Karl Bocker acquired steel buckles like all other holster makers..from a steel buckle maker. As odd as this assembly might be I cannot detect that it has ever been removed from it's original placement. It appears to be original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair View Post
    Sam, There are obviously going to be small variations on Luger buckles. I can't see that this would be anything but factory. I suspect Karl Bocker acquired steel buckles like all other holster makers..from a steel buckle maker. As odd as this assembly might be I cannot detect that it has ever been removed from it's original placement. It appears to be original.

    That's good to hear. Was that the error you were referencing or was there another one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser1908 View Post
    That's good to hear. Was that the error you were referencing or was there another one?
    No Sam, There is another one! As obvious as a giant red zit on your prom dates face! I am holding out till someone sees it! Believe me, it's that obvious.
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    ​No P08 .

    30 years ago I had a minty example like this and it had the odd texture in places like this one .
    See pic 6 .

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    I don't think the P08 was required on the back in 1940.
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    Waldbrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prairiedogpat View Post
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    In the sense it was stamped after it was dyed?

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