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    Jan,
    My stuff:
    1.5334x, 1940(medium),E/L, E/N, grips not numbered but have E/655 proofs,
    sear safety present, no milit. acceptance,match mag,#2, crimped, bore guage;
    2.5872x, 1941(small), E/L, E/N, grips not numbered but have E/655 proofs,
    sear safety present, no milit. acceptance, match mag, #2, crimped, bore guage;
    3.2869y, 1942(medium), E/L, E/N, grips numbered and E/135 proofs, sear safety
    present, no milit. acceptance, mag not matched.
    Tim H.

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    Tim
    Thanks for the police Banner information. Table updated.
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    Dave
    Thanks for the police Banner information. Table updated.
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    #3643W, 1939 mauser banner, E/L, C/U, grips not number, sear safety installed, matching crimped type 2 magazine numbered 1, Barrel: gague, but no number and no other markings

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    Jan,

    Here are the data of my small collection of Mauser Banner Police Lugers:
    - 1141w - 1939 Mauser Banner - C/U, E/F, sear safety mounted, side plate has E/6 proof, Barrel 1141 - no gauge - right grip plate 41 + 'S', left grip plate 41 + 'R', magazine blued crimped 1141 (2).
    - 7582w - 1940 Mauser Banner - E/N no police acceptance, sear safety mounted, left grip plate 'M' & 07, right grip plate 'S' (twice), Barrel 7782 no gauge; has Kal. 7.65 marking on left side (like Swedish commercial contract), magazine blued crimped 1552 (1) non matching.
    - 4387x - 1940 Mauser Banner - E/N, E/L, sear safety mounted, left grip E/655 & 'C', right grip plate only E/655, Barrel S/42 & 8,84 & E/n on base front sight, Magazine blued crimped 4387x 1.
    - 1525x - 1940 Mauser Banner - E/N; no police acceptance but E/655-E/655, hole for sear safety (not mounted), brown plastic grips, Barrel 1525 no gauge, Magazine not matching.
    - 5688y small 1942 Mauser Banner - E/N, E/L, sear hole filled up by DDR/Vopo rework, DDR/Vopo Grips, Barrel 8,83 no SN, Magazine fxo 5677 2. (This pistol was captured in 1982 at a PLO camp in Libanon by Israel Army).
    - 8208y small 1942 Mauser Banner - E/N, E/L, sear hole drilled no sear safety mounted, black plastic grips, Barrel 8,82, Magazine fxo 8208 1.

    Sorry, I like to collect the unusual as you see.
    Best regards,
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
    Analysis of a Million Luger Pistols

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    Peter and Joop
    Thanks for the banner information. Table updated.
    Jan

    Joop
    Interesting banners. Do it appear that 7582w, 1940, left the factory with the Kal. 7.65 marking on left side (like Swedish commercial contract) or was it non-factory barrel installation?

    I have banner 1220x (page 142 TRL) that like your 1525x has brown plastic Krieghoff style grips.
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    Jan,

    3001 W 1939, E/L, C/U , Never fitted for sear safety, replacement grips , matching #1 Blued tube mag. No barrel gauge, no barrel S/N, C/N on bottom of barrel.

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    Ron
    Thanks for the banner information. Table updated.
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    Jan,

    About 1940 Mauser Banner 7582w:
    I studied this pistol very carefully; comparing it with 7629w; another Swedish Commercial from the same range. The wittnes mark is absolutely original; this is the original barrel.

    It is interesting to observe that the last batch of 'Swedish Commercials': 1940 Mauser Banners, between #7504w and #7689w 23 pistols reported; - all having 4" 7.65mm barrels and the Kal. 7.65 marking on the left of the barrel - is very consistent. No other models have been reported in this range.

    Somehow # 7582w got a sear safety; indicating German Police use. There is no Police acceptance stamp however. A 7.65mm pistol for the German Police does not make much sence. So it might be that this sear safety was mounted on request of the Swedish importer (Widforss, Stockholm); but that is speculation. I have found #7582w recently in the USA.
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
    Analysis of a Million Luger Pistols

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    Jan,

    From today's auction at Hermann Historica:
    1941 Mauser Banner #7712x, E/L, E/N, sear safety mounted, wallnut grips (marking not mentioned), fxo magazine, aluminum bottom, no SN.
    1941 Mauser Banner #1290y, E/L, E/N, sear safety mounted,(reblued), wallnut grips (marking not mentioned), fxo magazine, black plastic bottom.
    Barrel markings were not shown or mentioned.
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
    Analysis of a Million Luger Pistols

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