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    Default 1939 42 Luger

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan C Still View Post
    Fellow collectors
    I was surprised that there was not more interest in this thread (It shows the details of five 1939 dated Lugers with over 50 photographs). In 5 days, there were no replies and no responses to my request: “Also, post or link any photographs of 1939 dated Mauser Army or Police Lugers.”

    Jan
    Jan,
    I just got a 1939 42 Luger and am trying to research it
    It is all matching
    It has the correct 655 proof mark but the serial no. is 5300 which seems to be outside the upper range of the serial numbers you listed?

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    I just joined today, as a newbie to Lugers and have learned a lot in a few minutes. I now understand the difference between a police and army Luger. The added photos make this forum top notch. Just seeing the photo of the police holster has help me learn the differance between the army and police style holsters. Looking forward to learning more about the Lugers, holsters, etc....
    A wealth information. Thanks, Jan

    Question:
    I am looking at a 1939 S/42, s/n 9xx, letter "O" for possible purchase.
    It has a lanyard ring on back upper grip. Was there a timeframe when Mauser attached or removed these lanyard rings to their Lugers?

    Thank You,

    Mike N.

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    Default 1939 Mauser (42 code) matching P.08 Luger

    I'm late getting to the game, but acquired this piece at the SAR show here in Phoenix last December.

    There's some sort of wear damage to the left front of the trigger guard, it almost looks like the pistol was repeatedly drawn from a holster and hit a buckle or something metal causing this specific issue.

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    Default 1939 Banner

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan C Still View Post
    1939 DATED MAUSER MILITARY AND POLICE LUGERS Copyright 2008 By Jan C. Still An update to add new Lugers and to add thumbnails to old posts. Any corrections or additions greatly appreciated.

    The change from S/42 to 42 code, from the mid to late test proof, and from the E/63 to E/655 acceptance stamp all occur during 1939. During 1939 Mauser produced approximately 26,300 S/42 code Lugers in the 4100n-3700q serial range and 93,000 42 code Lugers in the 2000q-5000z serial range for the German military. All the S/42 code Lugers are reported with the MTP and all 42 code Lugers are reported with the LTP. The S/42 code Lugers bear the SE63 SE63 acceptance stamps and the 42 code Lugers bear the SE63 SE63, SE63 SE655, and SE655 SE655 acceptance stamps (The SE63 stamps come in three sizes. On close examination some SE63 are actually SE83). All 1939 dated S/42, 42 code and police banner Lugers have the Mauser hump. A few 1939 S/42 Lugers have an added sear safety and were procured by the police.

    Some Mauser Banners dated 1939 bear police acceptance stamps of either E/L, E/C, E/K or E/F and were procured by the police.

    The 1939 date has more military and police variations than any other date (1934-1942, excluding minor mechanical markings variations found on some earlier dates). Illustrated here in are: S/42 Army and S/42 police (all variations excluding changes in E/63 size); Mauser Banner police E/L (excluding E/C, E/K, E/F; and 42 Code (excluding SE/655 SE/655 and Navy property number). The variety of manufacturing codes, test proofs, acceptance stamps, police stamps or the addition of a sear safety make collecting the1939 dated military and police Lugers challenging and interesting. Addition of the missing Variations to this partial listing would be most appreciated. They and their photographs can be posted in this thread or linked to it. Also, post or link any photographs of 1939 dated Mauser Army or Police Lugers.

    Figures one to four show the tops and right sides of the five Lugers described with more detail in Figures 5-51
    S/42 Code Army and Police; and Banner Police
    Figure 1. Tops, top to bottom: 1939 S/42 sn 9078n, E/83 E/63 MTP; Note red receiver.
    1939 S/42 sn8515n, E/83 E/63 MTP sear safety;
    1939 Banner Police, sn 2919w, CC/U, sear safety, E/L

    42 Code Army
    Figure 2. Tops, top to bottom: 1939 42, sn 4540, E/63 E/655 LTP
    1939 42, sn 2233r, E/63 E/63 LTP

    S/42 Code Army and Police; and Banner Police
    Figure 3. Right side, top to bottom: 1939 S/42 sn 9078n, E/83 E/63 MTP;
    1939 S/42 sn8515n, E/83 E/63 MTP sear safety;
    1939 Banner Police, sn 2919w, CC/U, sear safety, E/L

    42 Code Army
    Figure 4. Right side, top to bottom: 1939 42, sn 4540, E/63 E/655 LTP
    1939 42, sn 2233r, E/63 E/63 LTP

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    So, there were 26,300 1939 S42's produced,
    93,000 1939 42's produced.
    How many 1939 Banners were produced?

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    This post is truly remarkable in it's presentation and greatly appreciated for current and future reference.

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    Around 5000 Police Banners were produced in 1939. There were also other Commercial Banners produced.
    Tom

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    Thanks. How many 1939 Crown U, non police? They sound somewhat rare?

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