The purpose of this study is to identify and understand how many different types there were and to what lugers they were issued to. Hopefully, there will be some reunions of orphan mags in the process.
Some believe that these mags were issued to Ku lugers and other think that Mauser also may have numbered some. Perhaps both are correct.
To start with I have observed two different types of numbering. What I will call Type 1 appears to be heat stamped while Type 2 looks to be pantographed. A 10X loop is very helpful in showing the difference.
Pictured below are three Type 1 and one Type 2 that I have along with a couple of side by side shots to compare differences in depth and font.
Data that I would appreciate having:
1) Serial number and type
2) Magazine body markings ( fxo- 122-other)
3) P.08 stamping (normal or upside down)
If the magazine matches a Ku luger please advise chamber and toggle marking and if the Ku is a prefix or suffix. If it matches a Mauser please advise full serial number and chamber and toggle markings.
Pictures really help...
TYPE 1
1008+ fxo ... normal
1111+ fxo ... normal
1027+ fxo ... normal
1049+ fxo ... normal
1059+ fxo ... normal
1101 fxo ... normal
1101+ fxo ... normal
2009+ fxo ... normal
2640+ fxo ... normal
2651 fxo ... normal
2678 fxo ... normal --Matches 2678Ku 41-BYF
2678+ fxo ... normal --Matches 2678Ku 41-BYF
2697 fxo ... normal
2776+ fxo...normal
2797+ fxo...normal... see post 86 for details
2854+ fxo... normal
2892 fxo ... normal with "a" on lower spine --came in 2063Ku 41-BYF
2907 fxo ... --Matches 2907Ku 41-42
3018 fxo ... normal
5873 fxo ... normal-- Matches 42BYF 5873c
TYPE 2
1431 fxo... normal -- Matches 1431Ku 41-42
3110 fxo... normal
3657 fxo... normal -- Mathes Ku 3657 41 BYF
3690+ fxo... normal
4425 fxo... normal -- Matches Ku4425 41-42 .. see post 12
6932 fxo .. normal -- Matches BYF 42 6932L see post #77... pictures 4 & 5
6937 fxo .. normal -- Matches BYF 42 6937L see post #77... pictures 1-3
9939 fxo... normal -- Post 29
TYPE 3--- DIFFERENT NUMBERING EXAMPLES:
2114 fxo... normal.... Appears to be stamped-- Post 32
2884 fxo... normal.... Appears to different numbering than other two types reported. Post 23
3678 + fxo... normal .... another example of different numbering-- Post 31
TYPE 4
9712 fxo... normal.... Numbered on the lower spine-- see post 26
TYPE 5 Alum bottom
1220+.. fxo..normal
1431 see post #97
1533+.. fxo...normal....Matches 1533Ku 41 BYF
1699 .. fxo...normal.... Matches 1699Ku 41 BYF
1730 .. fxo...normal.... Matches 1730Ku 41 BYF found on page 559 of THE MAUSER PARABELLUM
1973+ see post #100
Some believe that these mags were issued to Ku lugers and other think that Mauser also may have numbered some. Perhaps both are correct.
To start with I have observed two different types of numbering. What I will call Type 1 appears to be heat stamped while Type 2 looks to be pantographed. A 10X loop is very helpful in showing the difference.
Pictured below are three Type 1 and one Type 2 that I have along with a couple of side by side shots to compare differences in depth and font.
Data that I would appreciate having:
1) Serial number and type
2) Magazine body markings ( fxo- 122-other)
3) P.08 stamping (normal or upside down)
If the magazine matches a Ku luger please advise chamber and toggle marking and if the Ku is a prefix or suffix. If it matches a Mauser please advise full serial number and chamber and toggle markings.
Pictures really help...
TYPE 1
1008+ fxo ... normal
1111+ fxo ... normal
1027+ fxo ... normal
1049+ fxo ... normal
1059+ fxo ... normal
1101 fxo ... normal
1101+ fxo ... normal
2009+ fxo ... normal
2640+ fxo ... normal
2651 fxo ... normal
2678 fxo ... normal --Matches 2678Ku 41-BYF
2678+ fxo ... normal --Matches 2678Ku 41-BYF
2697 fxo ... normal
2776+ fxo...normal
2797+ fxo...normal... see post 86 for details
2854+ fxo... normal
2892 fxo ... normal with "a" on lower spine --came in 2063Ku 41-BYF
2907 fxo ... --Matches 2907Ku 41-42
3018 fxo ... normal
5873 fxo ... normal-- Matches 42BYF 5873c
TYPE 2
1431 fxo... normal -- Matches 1431Ku 41-42
3110 fxo... normal
3657 fxo... normal -- Mathes Ku 3657 41 BYF
3690+ fxo... normal
4425 fxo... normal -- Matches Ku4425 41-42 .. see post 12
6932 fxo .. normal -- Matches BYF 42 6932L see post #77... pictures 4 & 5
6937 fxo .. normal -- Matches BYF 42 6937L see post #77... pictures 1-3
9939 fxo... normal -- Post 29
TYPE 3--- DIFFERENT NUMBERING EXAMPLES:
2114 fxo... normal.... Appears to be stamped-- Post 32
2884 fxo... normal.... Appears to different numbering than other two types reported. Post 23
3678 + fxo... normal .... another example of different numbering-- Post 31
TYPE 4
9712 fxo... normal.... Numbered on the lower spine-- see post 26
TYPE 5 Alum bottom
1220+.. fxo..normal
1431 see post #97
1533+.. fxo...normal....Matches 1533Ku 41 BYF
1699 .. fxo...normal.... Matches 1699Ku 41 BYF
1730 .. fxo...normal.... Matches 1730Ku 41 BYF found on page 559 of THE MAUSER PARABELLUM
1973+ see post #100