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    Default Ku DATA REQUEST

    The purpose of this study is to try and learn more about the elusive Kü pistol. Hopefully it will also be a place where members can report Kü pistols that had not been previously reported.

    Using Table 32.1 on page 560 of THE MAUSER PARABELLUM 1930-1946 as a guide one would expect certain standard properties and markings.

    ---- E/LA acceptance on R/H receiver and L/H of breechblock and barrel

    ---- The unnumbered parts normally are the hold open, inside of sideplate, rear toggle pin (receiver axle) and the end of the rear toggle link.

    What I am searching for are variations from the "normal" if there is such a thing on Ku pistols.

    DATA REQUESTED:

    1- Serial number...please note if large numbers. Normal size is same as Ku stamp. See examples below for normal or large numbers
    2- Chamber date and toggle markings
    3- All barrel markings to include gauge
    4- Grip information... wood or black plastic and any numbering. See examples below of normal and small numbers.
    5- Magazine information...
    6- Variations

    SN------ CODE -----BARREL ----GRIPS ----MAG ----VARIATIONS


    882Ku, BYF 41 B-90 barrrel

    1033Kü, BYF 41,S/42-W/154, wood 1033, unmarked black fxo mag

    1177Kü, BYF 41, Black grips, 2 matching alum bottom mags

    1242 Ku, BYF 41....wood grips with matching SN

    1261Kü, BYF 41,S/42-W/154, wood with small 1261 & E/655 grips, blank S/42 SE63 mag

    1317Kü, BYF 41 wood with full SN both matching black fox mags.. see post 104

    1327Kü, BYF 41, black fxo mag (from Wehrmacht Awards Forum)

    1357Kü, BYF 41, S/42, W/154, wood, matching 1357+ fxo mag

    1421Kü, BYF 41 Reblued.. (from Rock Island Auction catalog)


    1431Kü, 41/42, S/42-W/154, wood 1431, black fxo #1431, no stamps on entire toggle assembly except for 42 code

    1438Kü, BYF 41. Deactivated ...see post 92

    1533Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W/154, wood 1533, 1 matching alum mag, plum colored extractor

    1603Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W/154

    1622Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W154, wood 1622, black fxo, no E/LA on breechblock

    1630Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips, in Germany, see post 115

    1675Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood, black fxo mag 2640+

    1699Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood 1699, matching alum mag

    1702Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood not numbered. Matching "+" alum fxo mag ...see post #65

    1768Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W154, wood 1768, black fxo, unnumbered breechblock

    1834Kü, 1938 BYF VOPO East German rework

    1918Kü, 1939 BYF, E/655 barrel, 42 before SN on left frame, wood grips with SN.

    1956Kü, 1939 BYF, E/655 barrel, wood grips with E/655 and SN, black mag not numbered.

    2059Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips and alum bottom FXO mag

    2222Kü, 41 BYF, E/655 proofs, numbered wood grips and numbered black bottom mag.

    2431Kü, 41 BYF, See post #127

    2460Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips, East German Rework See post #71

    2520Kü, 41 BYF. E/655, Type 1 black grips, black bottom mag

    2678Kü, 41 BYF, Both matching black bottom mags

    2580 Ku, 41/42 , see posts 130 & 132

    2790Kü, 41 BYF, E/135, wood 2790, black fxo, breechblock not numbered

    2866Kü, 41/42, E/655, wood 2866, matching black fxo, sideplate 42 coded

    3050 Kü, 41/42, See post #108 for pictures and details

    3073 Ku, 41/42, see post #78 for pictures. Black grips & MATCHING + MAG..

    5148Ku, 41 BYF, E/655 , wood grips with 48 & E/655... see post 159

    Kü 1465, 41 BYF, HK type wood grips not numbered. No proofs on breechblock

    Kü 3128, 41/42, E/655, wood 3128, black fxo, coupling link blued

    Kü 3153, 41/42, wood 3153, 42 code sideplate and safety.. See post 85

    Kü 3171, 41/42, E/655, wood grips, black fxo... See post #71

    Kü 3220, 41/42, 42 sideplate, 3220 wood grips with E/655, black fox

    3301, 41/42, E/655, wood 3301, black fxo

    Kü 3350, 41 BYF, Wood 50. See posts #117 & 118

    Kü 3397, 41/42, Wood 97, See post 123

    Kü 3418, 41/42, wood 3418 and E/655, black fox, Brit proofs, see post 95

    3426, 41/42, E/655, wood 3426, no breechblock proof, 2 matching alum mags..See post #76

    Kü 3469, 41/42, E/655, wood 3469 and E/655, black fxo

    Kü 3549, 41 BYF, E/655, wood 3549, black fxo

    Kü 3599, 41 BYF, E/655, wood 3599, black fxo

    Kü 3634, 41/42, Appears to perhaps have a renumbered receiver... See post #106 for details

    3642, 41/42, matching numbered black fox

    Ku 3653, 41 BYF, See post 142

    Kü 3657,
    41 BYF, numbered black fxo, safety lever strawed and receiver overstamped

    3720, 41 BYF, reworked and stayed in service after the war. See post #63

    Kü 3834, 41 DWM, HK coarse brown grips, 42 replacement sideplate see Post #89

    Ku¨4258, 41 BYF, E/655, wood grips, Listed in TRL on page 101 and TMP on page 558. See post #111
    Ku 4312 41 BYF.. see post 137

    Ku 4318 41 BYF E/655 numbered wood grips

    4319, 41 BYF, E/655, matching 42 replacement sideplate, numbered wood grips,black fxo mag,sear bar 1965

    Kü 4363, 41/42, E/655, 42 replacement sideplate, wood grips

    4425, 41/42, matching numbered black fxo mag

    Ku 4453, 41/42, see post 137


    PISTOLS PERHAPS WITH SOME CONNECTION ???

    6573 ... No Kü but E/LA accepted. See post 36
    6766 Kü .... 42/42 with no E/LA acceptance... See posts 56 & 58
    9932 ... DWM 1918/1920 . No Kü but with E/LA acceptance on barrel... See post 68
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    dave

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    Dave ,
    byf 41 Serial # 1177ku / luftwaffe Proof / 2 matching mags 95% Gun
    I am going from memory on this Luger , as I looked at it some time back . I had hopes of buying it , but Vet has passed and relative will not sell it .

    Ron
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    Ku 3642, 41-42, E/L, Matching black plastic mag.,fxo/e37, barrel of gun has large pits due to poor storage. Magazine also is in bad shape.

    Frank

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    Ron... Do you recall what the mags looked like. Black plastic or alum bottoms and were they numbered to the gun??
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    Frank.... Is the mag numbered to the pistol and is the size of the serial number on the L/H side big or small ???
    dave

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    Hi, Dave - Yes the mag is numbered to the pistol. the serial number is large while the Ku is a smaller font.
    Frank

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    Dave , Aluminum . Blued tube , Numbered to Gun
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    Frank... Thanks for your quick reply. Any chance of posting some pictures of the mag bottom either here or over on the study on Black Numbered Mags ???

    https://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...magazine-study
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    Ron... Thanks for the additional information. I see this gun is listed in THE MAUSER PARABELLUM and has black plastic grips. Pity that you were not able to give it a good new home. This pistol would sure shed some light on some unanswered questions.

    List updated...
    dave

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    Dave , This Luger has WOOD Grips
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