The purpose of this study is to try and learn more about the elusive Kü pistol. Hopefully it will also be a place where members can report Kü pistols that had not been previously reported.
Using Table 32.1 on page 560 of THE MAUSER PARABELLUM 1930-1946 as a guide one would expect certain standard properties and markings.
---- E/LA acceptance on R/H receiver and L/H of breechblock and barrel
---- The unnumbered parts normally are the hold open, inside of sideplate, rear toggle pin (receiver axle) and the end of the rear toggle link.
What I am searching for are variations from the "normal" if there is such a thing on Ku pistols.
DATA REQUESTED:
1- Serial number...please note if large numbers. Normal size is same as Ku stamp. See examples below for normal or large numbers
2- Chamber date and toggle markings
3- All barrel markings to include gauge
4- Grip information... wood or black plastic and any numbering. See examples below of normal and small numbers.
5- Magazine information...
6- Variations
SN------ CODE -----BARREL ----GRIPS ----MAG ----VARIATIONS
882Ku, BYF 41 B-90 barrrel
1033Kü, BYF 41,S/42-W/154, wood 1033, unmarked black fxo mag
1177Kü, BYF 41, Black grips, 2 matching alum bottom mags
1242 Ku, BYF 41....wood grips with matching SN
1261Kü, BYF 41,S/42-W/154, wood with small 1261 & E/655 grips, blank S/42 SE63 mag
1317Kü, BYF 41 wood with full SN both matching black fox mags.. see post 104
1327Kü, BYF 41, black fxo mag (from Wehrmacht Awards Forum)
1357Kü, BYF 41, S/42, W/154, wood, matching 1357+ fxo mag
1412 Ku, BYF 41
1421Kü, BYF 41 Reblued.. (from Rock Island Auction catalog)
1431Kü, 41/42, S/42-W/154, wood 1431, black fxo #1431, no stamps on entire toggle assembly except for 42 code
1438Kü, BYF 41. Deactivated ...see post 92
1533Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W/154, wood 1533, 1 matching alum mag, plum colored extractor
1603Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W/154
1622Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W154, wood 1622, black fxo, no E/LA on breechblock
1630Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips, in Germany, see post 115
1639Ku, 41 BYF, Both matching alum bottom mags. see post 168
1675Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood, black fxo mag 2640+
1699Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood 1699, matching alum mag
1702Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood not numbered. Matching "+" alum fxo mag ...see post #65
1768Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W154, wood 1768, black fxo, unnumbered breechblock
1834Kü, 1938 BYF VOPO East German rework
1918Kü, 1939 BYF, E/655 barrel, 42 before SN on left frame, wood grips with SN.
1956Kü, 1939 BYF, E/655 barrel, wood grips with E/655 and SN, black mag not numbered.
2059Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips and alum bottom FXO mag
2222Kü, 41 BYF, E/655 proofs, numbered wood grips and numbered black bottom mag.
2431Kü, 41 BYF, See post #127
2460Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips, East German Rework See post #71
2520Kü, 41 BYF. E/655, Type 1 black grips, black bottom mag
2653Ku, 41 BYF. Vopo rework.. see post #175 for details
2678Kü, 41 BYF, Both matching black bottom mags
2580 Ku, 41/42 , see posts 130 & 132
2790Kü, 41 BYF, E/135, wood 2790, black fxo, breechblock not numbered
2800Ku, 41/42, see post 170
2866Kü, 41/42, E/655, wood 2866, matching black fxo, sideplate 42 coded
3050 Kü, 41/42, See post #108 for pictures and details
3073 Ku, 41/42, see post #78 for pictures. Black grips & MATCHING + MAG..
5148Ku, 41 BYF, E/655 , wood grips with 48 & E/655... see post 159
Kü 1465, 41 BYF, HK type wood grips not numbered. No proofs on breechblock
Kü 3128, 41/42, E/655, wood 3128, black fxo, coupling link blued
Kü 3153, 41/42, wood 3153, 42 code sideplate and safety.. See post 85
Kü 3171, 41/42, E/655, wood grips, black fxo... See post #71
Kü 3220, 41/42, 42 sideplate, 3220 wood grips with E/655, black fox
Kü 3301, 41/42, E/655, wood 3301, black fxo
Kü 3350, 41 BYF, Wood 50. See posts #117 & 118
Kü 3397, 41/42, Wood 97, See post 123
Kü 3418, 41/42, wood 3418 and E/655, black fox, Brit proofs, see post 95
Kü 3426, 41/42, E/655, wood 3426, no breechblock proof, 2 matching alum mags..See post #76
Kü 3469, 41/42, E/655, wood 3469 and E/655, black fxo
Kü 3549, 41 BYF, E/655, wood 3549, black fxo
Kü 3599, 41 BYF, E/655, wood 3599, black fxo
Kü 3634, 41/42, Appears to perhaps have a renumbered receiver... See post #106 for details
Kü 3642, 41/42, matching numbered black fox
Ku 3653, 41 BYF, See post 142
Kü 3657, 41 BYF, numbered black fxo, safety lever strawed and receiver overstamped
Kü 3720, 41 BYF, reworked and stayed in service after the war. See post #63
Ku 3765, 41 BYF
Kü 3834, 41 DWM, HK coarse brown grips, 42 replacement sideplate see Post #89
Ku¨4258, 41 BYF, E/655, wood grips, Listed in TRL on page 101 and TMP on page 558. See post #111
Ku 4312 41 BYF.. see post 137
Ku 4318 41 BYF E/655 numbered wood grips
Kü 4319, 41 BYF, E/655, matching 42 replacement sideplate, numbered wood grips,black fxo mag,sear bar 1965
Kü 4363, 41/42, E/655, 42 replacement sideplate, wood grips
Kü 4425, 41/42, matching numbered black fxo mag
Ku 4453, 41/42, see post 137
PISTOLS PERHAPS WITH SOME CONNECTION ???
6573 ... No Kü but E/LA accepted. See post 36
6766 Kü .... 42/42 with no E/LA acceptance... See posts 56 & 58
9932 ... DWM 1918/1920 . No Kü but with E/LA acceptance on barrel... See post 68
Using Table 32.1 on page 560 of THE MAUSER PARABELLUM 1930-1946 as a guide one would expect certain standard properties and markings.
---- E/LA acceptance on R/H receiver and L/H of breechblock and barrel
---- The unnumbered parts normally are the hold open, inside of sideplate, rear toggle pin (receiver axle) and the end of the rear toggle link.
What I am searching for are variations from the "normal" if there is such a thing on Ku pistols.
DATA REQUESTED:
1- Serial number...please note if large numbers. Normal size is same as Ku stamp. See examples below for normal or large numbers
2- Chamber date and toggle markings
3- All barrel markings to include gauge
4- Grip information... wood or black plastic and any numbering. See examples below of normal and small numbers.
5- Magazine information...
6- Variations
SN------ CODE -----BARREL ----GRIPS ----MAG ----VARIATIONS
882Ku, BYF 41 B-90 barrrel
1033Kü, BYF 41,S/42-W/154, wood 1033, unmarked black fxo mag
1177Kü, BYF 41, Black grips, 2 matching alum bottom mags
1242 Ku, BYF 41....wood grips with matching SN
1261Kü, BYF 41,S/42-W/154, wood with small 1261 & E/655 grips, blank S/42 SE63 mag
1317Kü, BYF 41 wood with full SN both matching black fox mags.. see post 104
1327Kü, BYF 41, black fxo mag (from Wehrmacht Awards Forum)
1357Kü, BYF 41, S/42, W/154, wood, matching 1357+ fxo mag
1412 Ku, BYF 41
1421Kü, BYF 41 Reblued.. (from Rock Island Auction catalog)
1431Kü, 41/42, S/42-W/154, wood 1431, black fxo #1431, no stamps on entire toggle assembly except for 42 code
1438Kü, BYF 41. Deactivated ...see post 92
1533Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W/154, wood 1533, 1 matching alum mag, plum colored extractor
1603Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W/154
1622Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W154, wood 1622, black fxo, no E/LA on breechblock
1630Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips, in Germany, see post 115
1639Ku, 41 BYF, Both matching alum bottom mags. see post 168
1675Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood, black fxo mag 2640+
1699Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood 1699, matching alum mag
1702Kü, 41 BYF, S/42, Wood not numbered. Matching "+" alum fxo mag ...see post #65
1768Kü, 41 BYF, S/42-W154, wood 1768, black fxo, unnumbered breechblock
1834Kü, 1938 BYF VOPO East German rework
1918Kü, 1939 BYF, E/655 barrel, 42 before SN on left frame, wood grips with SN.
1956Kü, 1939 BYF, E/655 barrel, wood grips with E/655 and SN, black mag not numbered.
2059Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips and alum bottom FXO mag
2222Kü, 41 BYF, E/655 proofs, numbered wood grips and numbered black bottom mag.
2431Kü, 41 BYF, See post #127
2460Kü, 41 BYF, wood grips, East German Rework See post #71
2520Kü, 41 BYF. E/655, Type 1 black grips, black bottom mag
2653Ku, 41 BYF. Vopo rework.. see post #175 for details
2678Kü, 41 BYF, Both matching black bottom mags
2580 Ku, 41/42 , see posts 130 & 132
2790Kü, 41 BYF, E/135, wood 2790, black fxo, breechblock not numbered
2800Ku, 41/42, see post 170
2866Kü, 41/42, E/655, wood 2866, matching black fxo, sideplate 42 coded
3050 Kü, 41/42, See post #108 for pictures and details
3073 Ku, 41/42, see post #78 for pictures. Black grips & MATCHING + MAG..
5148Ku, 41 BYF, E/655 , wood grips with 48 & E/655... see post 159
Kü 1465, 41 BYF, HK type wood grips not numbered. No proofs on breechblock
Kü 3128, 41/42, E/655, wood 3128, black fxo, coupling link blued
Kü 3153, 41/42, wood 3153, 42 code sideplate and safety.. See post 85
Kü 3171, 41/42, E/655, wood grips, black fxo... See post #71
Kü 3220, 41/42, 42 sideplate, 3220 wood grips with E/655, black fox
Kü 3301, 41/42, E/655, wood 3301, black fxo
Kü 3350, 41 BYF, Wood 50. See posts #117 & 118
Kü 3397, 41/42, Wood 97, See post 123
Kü 3418, 41/42, wood 3418 and E/655, black fox, Brit proofs, see post 95
Kü 3426, 41/42, E/655, wood 3426, no breechblock proof, 2 matching alum mags..See post #76
Kü 3469, 41/42, E/655, wood 3469 and E/655, black fxo
Kü 3549, 41 BYF, E/655, wood 3549, black fxo
Kü 3599, 41 BYF, E/655, wood 3599, black fxo
Kü 3634, 41/42, Appears to perhaps have a renumbered receiver... See post #106 for details
Kü 3642, 41/42, matching numbered black fox
Ku 3653, 41 BYF, See post 142
Kü 3657, 41 BYF, numbered black fxo, safety lever strawed and receiver overstamped
Kü 3720, 41 BYF, reworked and stayed in service after the war. See post #63
Ku 3765, 41 BYF
Kü 3834, 41 DWM, HK coarse brown grips, 42 replacement sideplate see Post #89
Ku¨4258, 41 BYF, E/655, wood grips, Listed in TRL on page 101 and TMP on page 558. See post #111
Ku 4312 41 BYF.. see post 137
Ku 4318 41 BYF E/655 numbered wood grips
Kü 4319, 41 BYF, E/655, matching 42 replacement sideplate, numbered wood grips,black fxo mag,sear bar 1965
Kü 4363, 41/42, E/655, 42 replacement sideplate, wood grips
Kü 4425, 41/42, matching numbered black fxo mag
Ku 4453, 41/42, see post 137
PISTOLS PERHAPS WITH SOME CONNECTION ???
6573 ... No Kü but E/LA accepted. See post 36
6766 Kü .... 42/42 with no E/LA acceptance... See posts 56 & 58
9932 ... DWM 1918/1920 . No Kü but with E/LA acceptance on barrel... See post 68