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  1. #51
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    Frank,
    Of course I will have a close look to both Lugers if you want. Banners are even more my things as K-dates. When you are sending them - it will be here 01:00 AM so I might be taking a nap... I will take care in the morning though.
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
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    Here are the K-Date photos SN#2510
    Frank

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    Please post a picture of the serial number on the bottom of

    the barrel.

    Thank you,

    Bob

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    BOB,
    I can not take a picture at this time.The main thing I was wondering was how hard the two digit numbers where hit.
    The 42 looks like it was pressed not hit,it is deep.
    The swell of metal around the 1 and 0 is on 3or4 parts.
    The scriptic and 1 0 on side plate are not straight across.
    That is a big slop.
    The bottom of the barrel sn the 1 seems a little darker than the 2 5 or 0. There is a scriptic s side ways under the front sight.
    Thanks,FRANK

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    Sorry, I ment gothic S side ways under front sight.

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    Frank,

    I compared your pictures stamps with the stamps on my four K-dates here (between SN 2003 - 856a).
    Yes, there are very noticeable differences in the stamps of the S/42 - especially the 42 can be anything like very undeep - just on the surface, to very deep. Yours is the deepest though.
    Also the two digit SN's on the parts are not nicely in line; distance between them varies highly and they are just sometimes nicely in line. Looks like they were struck one by one.
    I have no digit '1' in my serial numbers so I could not compare your '1' to mine.

    As from SN 4000a on the G-dates it looks like the stamping is becoming regular; nicely in line and also the S/42 is becoming evenly struck. Same place, same depth.

    We might conclude that the marking of the first Military contract Lugers that Mauser made as from November 1934 was done by hand - striking using individual digit dies. Depending of the weight of the hammer (and the strenght of the blow) the results are quite different.
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
    Analysis of a Million Luger Pistols

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    Joop,
    Data on my K-date:
    1. 2712
    2. O|37 0|37
    3. b
    4. b
    5. a
    6. 2712 (replacement; 42, SE63)
    Regards,
    ark

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    Art,

    Well, it seems that this survey is gaining momentum again, also thanks to you.
    Your K-date SN 2712 with its properties is added to the survey listing above.
    Joop van de Kant, co - author of:
    "The Mauser Parabellum 1930-1946"
    Analysis of a Million Luger Pistols

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    Frank,

    The stampings on my K date SN 2547 are not like yours. They are all evenly struck, not deeply. The S and numbers are all evenly lined up on the sideplate, takedown lever & safety bar.
    HC

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    Hello Joop ,
    Perhaps the last one sn 650a
    1.b = hump
    2.a = short barrel band
    7 = indention present
    B/90 , S/91 , eagle
    B/90 on the "tenon de recul de glissière" sorry for the name ...
    S only on hold open with the last 50 stamped
    Large 50 inside grips , no other marks.
    No magazine
    Best regards...Patrice
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